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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 26-Nov-2010 17:22:15
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| Works great, thanx! _________________ AmigaOS 4.1 FEu2 on Sam440ep-flex 800MHz 1GB RAM C128, A500+, A1200, A1200/40, AmigaForever 2008+09+16, 5 x86/x64 boxes Still waiting (or dreaming) for the Amiga revolution... m4rko.com/AMIGA
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 26-Nov-2010 17:57:36
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| That's right. Great game it seems, also very playable (unlike some other ports). Last edited by Phantom on 27-Nov-2010 at 11:11 AM.
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 26-Nov-2010 20:50:29
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| A great game although it is a port. |
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 26-Nov-2010 22:04:25
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| Well, its not a simple recompile. The sources that Hyperion originally acquired used Windows APIs directly. The graphics, sound, and input code were replaced entirely with Amiga ones.
Also, the video codec wasn't originally licensed to Hyperion, so the videos were converted to Cinepak MOVs. The original Amiga build had a "hyperionvideo.library" which was provided by a third party without sources, so for the OS4.x port, I basically wrote a replay routine from scratch.
It also has an Amiga native install script, and GUI. Oh, and it comes with support.
So I wouldn't say it was the same thing as the SDL games where someone typed "configure" and "gmake" and got an exe. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 26-Nov-2010 22:49:23
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but does "demo" imply that there is a "full" game for purchase? And if so, isn't that weird since the game (not the data) is open source? Sure, you can sell the port with the original cd, but in that case I hope it wont be more than 5eu max _________________ x86/MorphOS 4.0
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 4:04:26
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| HA-HA
nope it's and original Amiga version so why would you need a original PC version?
& if you can get games like this working on the Amiga I have a list of ports that I want you to start working thru. but dont worry for every one sold I will give you 2euro's :P _________________
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 9:19:06
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You're wrong. Its has never been open sourced, unlike the sequel.
And even if it was open source, most ex-commercial open source games still require you to purchase the CD for the data files. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 10:33:26
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| @Xeron Out of topic, but if you already do all of this with quake2 and with freespace, maybe you also have in your todo-list a shogo as well ? Imho having working aos4-native version of shogo will be really nice in compare with quake2/freespace. It was the most modern game for classic ppc-amigas back in the times :) _________________ Join us to improve dopus5! zerohero's mirror of os4/os3 crosscompiler suites
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 10:58:03
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| I'm pretty sure the open source version of Freespace 2 plays the original Freespace as well. At least it does for MorphOS And while you have to find your own copy of the original, it's probably much cheaper than aquiring the "original" amiga version. _________________ x86/MorphOS 4.0
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 12:50:09
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| Well, even if Freespace 2 plays the data files from the PC game, the ones on the Amiga CD won't necessarily work, as the Amiga version is just that, an Amiga version, rather than a straight port. Now there is an update for all those who bought the Amiga version and want to run it on OS4, and a demo so that people can try it out. There are still reasons to buy the Amiga version over using Freespace 2; the Amiga version of Freespace is heavily modified to give a true commercial game experience with proper installer, support, GUI and native integration.
So its really up to the end-user I guess. If you already have Amiga Freespace, the update is no doubt very welcome. If not, you can either pick up a second hand copy and play it with Freespace 2 open source (if that works, i've not tried), or buy the Amiga version and support Hyperion and show them its worth them maintaining their back catalog, and maybe even bringing new closed source games to AmigaOS. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 27-Nov-2010 15:29:22
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| Wow Thanks. Now Sam users can get by without complaining.
Unfortunately my enjoyment came to an end. I was following the tutorial and just got past scanning the cargo when my machine froze. Complete freeze. I knew it when the sound sample playing started looping, almost buzzing. I hate that sound.
It's quite annoying as the tutorial was getting boring and I don't want to go through it again! Plus it's hard using the keypad, need a proper joystick I think. |
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 28-Nov-2010 10:39:08
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| @Hypex
If it happens again, do a soft reboot, and type:
DumpDebugBuffer FILE=ram:debug.txt
and if there is a crashlog in debug.txt, email it to:
freespace /at/ hyperion-entertainment.biz _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 28-Nov-2010 13:53:05
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| @xeron
I' m sorry I didn't make myself clear when I said "Complete freeze". I'm unable to softboot. |
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 28-Nov-2010 14:03:50
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| Is this on a system where you can only connect a USB keyboard? _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 30-Nov-2010 12:08:27
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Re: Updated Demo of Freespace: The Great War now available Posted on 30-Nov-2010 19:22:25
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| Hmm... could you maybe try hooking up a null modem cable to another computer? _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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