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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 7-Feb-2013 22:28:21
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| Well, you folks should better not compare with IFF, as IFF is difficult to compare to single-format file schemes as PNG and similar.
IFF ANIM for example isnt bound to 8 bit depth, as you may assume. Its a container, just like the IFF format itself is a container. Actually there are no player programs available that are able to play IFF ANIM other than the known ones (max depth 8 bit), but this is not a format based problem.
Just dont compare with IFF |
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 7-Feb-2013 23:42:52
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| IFF-24 is 24 bits deep. _________________ Wanna try a wonderfull magical Amiga strategy game? Total Chaos AGA
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 8-Feb-2013 0:15:29
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| ...and there is more than IFF24.
IFF-DEEP for example, which is defined for 32 bits depth (8 bits alpha), too.
There was also a proposal for IFF-DEEP64, with 16 bits alpha. And many more.
I wanted to make clear that IFF is a bit more than just an outdated 8 bit picture/digital audio format |
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 8-Feb-2013 6:56:17
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 8-Feb-2013 10:30:17
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| Thanks for this new plugin for Hollywood, for V.A.M.P. is fantastic to see this format, because some viewers don't show this format. |
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 8-Feb-2013 19:33:17
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| @whose: Well, we should stick to "what is" and not "what could have been". The fact of the matter is that there is no IFF ANIM format that supports alphachannel transparency. Full stop. Of course one could extend the IFF ANIM format to support it but no program ever did this. So de facto IFF ANIM doesn't support it, although it could. But talking about what the IFF format could have become is quite pointless because then you could also argue that we don't need new video formats because one could also introduce an IFF VIDEO format with support for the latest H.264 codec, etc. |
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 8-Feb-2013 21:28:41
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| You are great man Andreas :)
Keep up good work! _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 9-Feb-2013 0:12:05
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| @softwarefailure:
You didnt get the point (as so many others didnt): IFF ANIM already supports any picture format you could think of. The applications actually using this formats are missing, as they are missing for the (very crude) APNG format. Or do you know any AmigaOS application that is able to write or use APNG? I dont know a single one. So I could ask the other way: Wheres the point in plugins displaying the APNG format? There are even very few APNG anims, so what?
I just dont like the comparison against IFF (its always done, when somebody releases a plugin/datatype/whatever supporting a definetly not widely used picture/audio/anim/whatever format). Just dont do it, as you cant compare IFF with a single format scheme like e.g. APNG. Simple as that.
And yes, youre right: it is possible to create IFF ANIM containers transporting h.264 format videos (in fact, it is done the same way using containers of a very similar format. Even PNG does mimic IFF format with its "chunks"). And there is indeed no need for tenthousand different formats to do the same thing, playing videos/animations.
But the most important point is, that AmigaOS needs to introduce unique features. That will never happen as long as people try to make up with other OSses by supporting exotic data formats and comparing these against IFF, instead of expanding IFF and its support libraries by the (eventually) needed features/formats. |
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 9-Feb-2013 1:04:21
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Re: APNG plugin for Hollywood Posted on 9-Feb-2013 11:30:18
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IFF ANIM already supports any picture format you could think of. The applications actually using this formats are missing
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This is nonsense reasoning. It's like saying "AmigaOS can already read Java applets. The only thing missing is an application that actually runs them."
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Wheres the point in plugins displaying the APNG format?
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The plugin can save APNG anims as well so you can use them in Firefox, for example. That's enough reason for me. |
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