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hardware OS4   hardware OS4 : A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
   posted by m3x on 26-Feb-2013 22:02:22 (6564 reads)
The problem with the crackling audio on some Sam460ex boards/AmigaOne 500 systems has been identified.

For some reasons, still under investigation, a few boards miss a resistor (R267)
This 0 ohm resistor is responsible for the clock source selection of the AC97 codec, without it the codec runs at a wrong frequency which causes the crackling audio.

Read more ---->


If you have a sound quality problem with your Sam460ex board/AmigaOne system, please check if the R267 resistor is in place or not. See this photo from the bottom of the board:



Alternatively the problem may be mitigated with a special sm502.audio driver which minimizes (but not completely removes) the noise.

Download and try this alternate driver
    

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Rob 
Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
Posted on 26-Feb-2013 22:14:53
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Explains why it only affected some customers. I assume repair is free if customer chose that option.

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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
Posted on 26-Feb-2013 22:29:54
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Thanks for this information, Max.

If I find the resistor is missing, can I simply bridge it with a blob of solder?
[edit] Forget that, I see it's suggested on the website.[/edit]

Last edited by tonyw on 26-Feb-2013 at 10:41 PM.


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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
Posted on 26-Feb-2013 22:56:33
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I can confirm that I have a board that is missing the resistor.



Thanks,
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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
Posted on 27-Feb-2013 2:03:34
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Graffias79,
I can confirm that you have a better camera than M3X.

It's great to find solutions.


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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
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@lylehaze

Or maybe just better lighting.

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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
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Confirmed, at least my Sam has this resistor but the sound problems continue, and I hope after to open the case and remove the board will haven't problmems now..

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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
Posted on 28-Feb-2013 9:56:34
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Very sorry news. Such things are so unconfortable.
I hope this can be fixed in a smooth way for everybody.
Hope for the best.


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Re: A fix for the audio issue on Sam460ex and AmigaOne 500
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@Templario:

You write "confirmed", then you contradict the original post saying this cannot be the cause. Do you really mean you have both the resistor AND the problem?

@everyone

This is a pretty simple thing to fix, anyone with knowledge of soldering should be able to do it (and I mean knowledge, not just "has soldered two things together at some time in the past"). I hope Acube will not insist on recalls but rather try to find local solutions for people. If anyone in the Oslo/Akershus area wants help putting in this resistor, PM me. In the Trondheim and Sandefjord areas I can organize it as well, through friends.


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Posted on 28-Feb-2013 21:29:23
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guys Chris over at amigans.net has made a benchmark to test out this new feature.

If you've got a 460 check it out at amigans thread


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@klx300r

Wrong news item. You meant:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6691


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Hey friend now as curiosity with the special drivers for resolve this problems my Sam with this resistor the sound problems altmost have disppeared, now I can hear music for example with the AmigaAmp without problems with noises.

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@ olegil

oops thanks your right I'll put it in the correct thread too


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anyone with knowledge of soldering should be able to do it


Agreed. I am on the coast in Virginia, USA, and could turn this around for anyone in this area.

Also, while a "solder blob" was mentioned, a thin conductor (even a single strand of copper) soldered on both ends would be more reliable long term.


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I have had luck using just a #2 pencil to "draw" the solder pads together. I remembered a few years ago people were using this method to unlock AMD CPUs to allow them to be overclocked, so I thought it was worth a try. It turns out that graphite conducts enough electricity to act as a jumper! Just be careful not to touch the other resisters nearby with your drawing!

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I don't understand. I've never heard of a 0 ohm resistor before! What's the point of a resistor that doesn't resist? LOL!

Is a 0 ohm resistor just a technical description for a short or joint? I can't believe they would actually make a resistor that just shorts across. I suppose it does look neat but hidden amongst a hay stack.

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I don't understand. I've never heard of a 0 ohm resistor before! What's the point of a resistor that doesn't resist?

I was thinking the same thing, the only thing I can think of is the 0 ohm resistor could act as a fuse.

But I am not an expert so thats only a guess.


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It's a short that you can easily change to not be a short for lab purposes. For instance debug pins which require a certain wiring during normal operation but you might want to test something by connecting them otherwise. One 0ohm and one DNI and you're in business. A resistor is the opposite of a conductor, so a bad resistor is a good conductor

Need some?
http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en/resistors/chip-resistor-surface-mount/65769?k=zero%20ohm

For a fuse you use a an actual fuse, which has a controlled resistance and heat tolerance (resistance + current gives heat, so it can burn off at the right current). Or a high-coefficient PTC (positive thermal coefficient resistor, which will get more resistive the hotter it gets).


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I checked my motherboard today and can now confirm the resistor is missing from my Sam460ex board too

Does the #2 pencil fix work for people? Any success with the alternate driver?

I am not so keen to sent the motherboard back to Vesalia as AO500 is my only working computer ATM and I dare not to play with soldering iron with my limited electronics skills.


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YES!!!
Tried your trick (pencil drawing the solder pads together) and now sound is clear no hiss!!!
Juts put a bit of tape to fix the graphite too in the resistor.

THX mate

PS: no it's not an 1st april fools post. Really it works!!!

Last edited by jabirulo on 01-Apr-2013 at 12:07 PM.
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