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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : OpenAmiga.net launched
   posted by jorit2 on 5-Sep-2013 2:04:37 (4433 reads)
After careful deliberation and many discussions between developers from all sections of the Amiga community the decision has been made to revive the OpenAmiga project.

The OpenAmiga Standard is intended to minimize the programming effort needed to port between the four current Amiga platforms, Amiga OS 3.x, AROS, MorphOS and AmigaOS 4.

It is a collection of API's that developers can target safe in the knowledge that their software written on one platform can be compiled and run as intended on an alternative platform that adheres to the standard.... (Please click 'Read more'.)


Please feel free to visit our website and provide feedback as the standard is not set in stone yet.

We're currently focusing on the development of a new SDK, which we plan to release as soon as possible.

Find out more ? OpenAmiga.net
    

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Re: OpenAmiga.net launched
Posted on 5-Sep-2013 3:09:13
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About time!


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Move forward through co-operation.

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Unfortunate name choice:
* there is already http://openamiga.org;
* "open" seems to refer to "open source".
Something like "CommonAmiga" would be more appropriate (and it even vaguely hints at "Commodore Amiga" ).
Good luck, anyway.

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Nice idea


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Nice idea, but there is no real content on the page yet. Also I find counting SDL as "Amiga" standard a bit amusing... Finally this black background and small white text, not very readable.


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Also I find counting SDL as "Amiga" standard a bit amusing...


I think it is ok. Games dont need native GUI. If someone is going to write 2D game it is quite straightforward API to get an access to frame buffer, joysticks and sound. It abstracts away those low level interfaces you would be dealing with.


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Unfortunate name choice: * there is already http://openamiga.org;


Terminills (and a few others) created openamiga.org years ago and then shut it down and let the domain expire. So what you are seeing on openamiga.net was originally on openamiga.org. OpenAmiga is OS4 centric and as such, not very open to the rest of the community.

Last edited by damocles on 05-Sep-2013 at 01:42 PM.
Last edited by damocles on 05-Sep-2013 at 12:16 PM.
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I agree with Grzegorz Kraszewski regarding SDL and Amiga.
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Games dont need native GUI

I think they need own Amiga native interface, so they will be playable for example on AmigaOS3.x. Amiga needs own API similiar to SDL, so that real hardware strength is used. Currently abstract layers from SDL kill the efficiency. Believe me or not.

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@damocles

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Terminills (and a few others) created openamiga.org years ago and then shut it down and let the domain expire.

The domain is still alive:

http://whois.net/whois/openamiga.org

Domain ID:D153365976-LROR
Domain Name:OPENAMIGA.ORG
Created On:16-Jul-2008 11:27:51 UTC
Last Updated On:06-Jul-2013 21:24:48 UTC
Expiration Date:16-Jul-2015 11:27:51 UTC

The website is up as well.


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So what you are seeing on openamiga.net was originally on openamiga.org. OpenAmiga is OS4 centric and as such, not very open to the rest of the community.

Leaving the usual and useless war aside, still I think that the name choice is unfortunate for the reasons illustrated in my first post. Sure, if the other project is dead, it's less of a problem, but still...

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The domain is still alive: http://whois.net/whois/openamiga.org


I guess I didn't make myself clear enough, Terminills and others had that domain first and let it expire after they shut down their web site which now can be found at openamiga.net . The current folks who registered it did so after Terminill's shut down the original site and let the domain name expire.

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So we have yet another "Amiga programming site" after intuitionbase.com, amigacoding.de and openamiga.org... In my opinion creating multiple sites is pointless.

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@g_kraszewski

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So we have yet another "Amiga programming site" after intuitionbase.com, amigacoding.de and openamiga.org... In my opinion creating multiple sites is pointless.


Then you don't understand what openamiga.net is about then. It's not about coding, it's about standards.


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@damocles

it's about standards

And where these standards will come from?


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And where these standards will come from?


If I understand correctly, there will be committees formed shortly from all camps and they will decide via vote. So MOS, OS4, and AROS (might be 68K folks in there as well) Devs will sit down and take a vote on what should be the new standard for whatever their committee is formed for.


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if these are going to be open standards and solutions then the sanest choice would be to base them upon aros standards and solutions as these are de facto only open "amiga" standards. alternatively one might define new standards and incorporate them into aros alongside but which standards would that be. amigalike oses have their own independent solutions for almost everything at the moment, especially os4. common standards i could think of are only things like poseidon, zune, cybergraphics..

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It's just another of these MUI-foisting attempts.

Rather than this lowest-common-denominator approach, whereby developers are forced to avoid using anything that is missing from AROS, surely it would be better to fix the incomplete OSes so they offer the complete API and can thus run the full range of Amiga software? I don't intend to write OS3.9/4.x/MOS applications that ignore half the functionality available, just because of AROS. AROS seems to be hindering the development of further quality Amiga software.

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Bla bla bla


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yes then I insist on ignoring platforms that are not able to address much more than 2 GB RAM and thus hindering progress

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>yes then I insist on ignoring platforms that are not able to address much more than 2 GB RAM and thus hindering progress

AFAIK all the platforms are able to address 4Gb, and none of them are able to address more, being 32-bit. So I don't see your point.

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yes then I insist on ignoring platforms that are not able to address much more than 2 GB RAM and thus hindering progress


So you're only going to support x86-64? What's going to happen with your AROS Vision distro then?

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