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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : Cinemaware wings back
   posted by vprette on 26-Nov-2013 8:39:37 (3591 reads)
The amiga classic Wings from Cinemaware is being kickstarted at


http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/850516062/wings-remastered-edition

Help these guys, only few days left! If funded, an AmigaOS version is also mentioned!
    

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Re: Cinemaware wings back
Posted on 26-Nov-2013 16:47:19
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Since there is no Unity 3D on AmigaOS, I wonder how could an AmigaOS 4.1 version be made...

And it's even wierder when the poster of this news has only posted ONE post on AW.

Coming here just to ask for money, trying to play the nostalgic fiber over Amigans is...well... you know.


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Coming here just to ask for money, trying to play the nostalgic fiber over Amigans is...well... you know.


...very suspicious!

Also - there is a thread already.


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they still need a lot of money so they try make some extra bucks by throwing a bone called "AmigaOS" everywhere. The best is, it costs them nothing and they promise nothing.

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Cinemaware in cooperation with Hyperion Entertainment make re-distribution of classic Amiga 68K Cinemaware titles this year.. so this is good chance to continue cooperation!

Hyperion it's your call! Good game to bundle with OS4.2


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There will never be an Amiga OS 4.x version.


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There will be an Amiga OS4.x version.


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If they achieve the minimum of $85,000.
1) We would need to add another $10,000 for them to release the code.
2) The code would need to be validated that it does not have external software dependencies that prevent it from being ported.
3) We would need to find someone willing to port it for free, or pay them additional thousands.


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You have the ability to look in the future? How about stock prices next year? I would be interested...

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Who knows? I'm keeping my fingers crossed! :)


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Instead of putting money into, yeat another Wings re-mastered, it would be a lot better to focus on getting unity to amiga.


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Hey guys,

just a few words from us. The Stretch Goal at 95k is for the MAC-Version. So we will produce there the MAC-Version. Also at this goal we give away the Code of this Version for any team that want (and also have the possibility) to port this Game to AmigaOS and Linux!

And before you ask, yes the team get also the profit of the sales of their Versions.

And please also keep in mind with 85k of a goal you really can't get rich.

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@Cinemaware

How about new cooperation with Hyperion?


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Awesome! One of my all time favourite games on the Amiga, and all other platforms for that matter. Now if they would only remaster Pirates! another one of my all time favourites.


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And how would Cinemaware make any money porting unity to Amiga? And why in the World would the company that makes Unity have any interest in supporting the Amiga? As harsh as it sounds, it's like asking them to make an Atari ST Unity port... or support Windows 95 ... and barely better than asking for C-64 support. There simply isn't a large enough userbase to really get any mainstream support like that. The only way I could ever see it happening is if some insane millionaire simply threw money at them.

@Cinemaware If using Unity, why not make a Linux port yourself? As for the Amiga, I guess an outside group could code it from the ground up, and reuse the assets, but at the speed most Amiga related things seem to go, it may be like 5+ years before a port is made. And it will only work on one motherboard, in limited quantities, that costs 3K.

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Sure we will evaluate a new cooperation with Hyperion!

Why not the Linux port direct? Its because we can't do this right now. If we reach the stretch goal of 95k then we concentrate on the Mac-Version. So, we will not have the time to do that. In the main goal we have PC and Mobile. Right now it looks good that we reach the Goal of 95k.

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@cinemaware

The 3D support in AmigaOS4 is at a partly incomplete OpenGL 1.3 level. Not to mention that Unity3D would have to be ported to the platform for this to even be considered.

This means that one of two alternatives must be true:

1.
You are technically incompetent enough not to understand these simple facts and what they mean for the portability of your game, which would give any normal person doubts about investing in your project as a whole.

2.
You are aware of these facts but are still blatantly trying to scam ignorant nostalgics for their money by pretending that there will be a port that cannot be done. This is probably even worse, since you are washing your hands saying "that will be the job of the porting team once we have given them our source".

Which one is it?

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Cinemaware has been very transparent with the information regarding its project, and the attempt to offend us with such kind of remark will not change this. We understand that most Amiga fans out there are happy to see that we at least are making an effort to enable the project have a chance of being ported to AmigaOS. We do this for respect of the legacy of Amiga and also how much Cinemaware has brought Amiga gamers in the past.

We explained in our campaign that we will make the source for the project available for a team who is interested in doing an AmigaOS port. In fact, we also explained we do not have the skills of expertise to do this port. So, we do not think we are hiding anything.

We are very open for discussion and also doing much communication with our fans and backers. That is also the reason why we are going directly to communities and answer those questions. Not many other companies out there will do this.

Would you prefer we shut out the possiblity of handing over the source for an Amiga team instead? Please let us know how other Amiga fans feel about this and we will do what the community desires.

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@cinemaware

Quote:
Sure we will evaluate a new cooperation with Hyperion!


I suggest you contact instead:

http://www.amigaos.net/

or email Steven Solie direct:

http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=463

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Posted on 28-Nov-2013 15:44:46
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@ cinemaware

Judging by your reply you dont seem overly offended by a few vocal forum posters that see anything
but a complete cinemaware Wings version for AOS4 as a scam (or attempt for it).
So Im sure you are aware that many users (that might not be posting activly) have a more pragmatic
view on the issue.
Releasing the source seems like a fair enough deal.

Not sure why some people think that cinemaware is rinding on the old fame.
Take Elite Dangerous for example. Its probarly one of the games I played the most on the Amiga, but
when I added my 70 bucks (or whatever it was) to the kickstarter, it was not under the expectation
that Elite Dangerous ever would be released for Next Gen Amiga OS.
If Braben and his team ever end up making an Amiga version I would be pleasently suprised.

Same goes for Wings. You have to decide if you want to play this game on its own merits/playability, be it on PC. If Amiga version ever surfaces, all the better.

On the flipside, I sometimes buy games for ipad/PC from publishers that also posts here and from day
one got Amiga versions. The urge to buy from such a publisher is stronger, even if the game is not as
top notch as i would require from a pure PC game.

Cinemaware; if you have read more than one thread on this forum, you know there are all kinds of extreme personalities posting here. Following your own gameplan while ignoring the noise is probarly the best plan.

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@Channel_Z
I think it is pretty damn low of you to attack them for something they never promised.
If you cant understand what releasing the source code means then that is you who is having a problem.

There is nothing more that they can even do....

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