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hardware Classic   hardware Classic : A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
   posted by amigakit on 5-Sep-2015 16:56:40 (4024 reads)
A-EON Technology Ltd is pleased to announce a new Classic Amiga mouse is now available.

As part of A-EON's ongoing commitment to Classic Amiga users, we have teamed up with Elbox Computer to produce a new optical 1000 DPI modern mouse.

If you are always finding that the Commodore original mouse needs cleaning and operates unreliably, then this mouse will provide a quality replacement on your Amiga.

- optical (no ball and no cleaning!)
- 1000 DPI resolution
- microswitched buttons
- compatible with A500, A500+, A600*, A1200, A1500, A2000, A3000, A4000, A4000T.
- scrollwheel and tilt functions can be mapped in Freewheel software

* Optional adapter is required for A600 use available here.

Where To Buy:


- AmigaKit.com (UK)
- AmigaKit.com (Europe)
- AmigaKit.com (USA)
- AmigaKit.com (Canada)
- Other official A-EON dealers soon


    

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Re: A-EON Boing Ball Mouse for Classic Amigas
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Nice!

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great development..

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Black color?


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Compbatible with A1000, CDTV, & CD32?


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First off: Very good idea. I'm tempted to get one just for the hell of it, even if my time allows no playing with Amigas this year.

Second: But being the hardware minded person I am, does anyone know how the scroll wheel actually interfaces to the Amiga? I know there's hardware support for three mouse buttons and the X/Y movement pins, but I simply do not understand how the information about the scroll wheel is sent across.


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@olegil

Yes, good question. There's probably a USB-to-Amiga PIC or Atmega in rather bulky connector.

Maybe it uses the PotX feature of the 3rd mouse button somehow?


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I'm pretty sure it's all encoded as serial data on the 3rd mouse button pin which the driver then decodes, reinstating the 3rd mouse button event in software if needed. This probably rules out the use of the 3rd button for non-OS software, but given how few games don't even use the second joystick button, I doubt it's a problem...

Nice solution, and it looks like there's demand for a black version too.

Edit: And since that mouse was already available in a PS/2 version, it's probably simply a Cocolino or similar hard-wired to the mouse

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according to post on polish forum it is mroocheck. whatever the case, afair the wheel usage needs certain driver, called freewheel installed on your system, its solved purely on software base. all these solutions have been available for ages. what seems to be particularly new about this mouse is that adapter is hard soldered to the cable and the boing ball sticker.

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And that's where it gets confusing, as the mroocheck website it converts mouse wheel movements to analog joystick movement, yet PotY is the same as button2 on the Amiga (and PotX is button3, so there go the mouse buttons).


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i have no experiece with mroocheck. i only had cocolino, which worked well, afair, i have not been using it for a while. it was simply ps2 to mouse port adapter. mroocheck seems to be an older obsolete adapter for pc serial mouses. perhaps there was a cheap stock of either these adapters or serial mouses to get rid of.

in any case there is a little gain having mouse wired directly to that adapter, if the plug is still a bulky one, and doesnt fit in many desktop cases because of the screws. the handicap is the additional price, while either item brekage results in the remaining one of components being useless.

therefore it looks like another merchandise rather than really well thought offer. as opposed to what i have found here (at least mechanically, im not sure if and how the wheel is supported there). post #23:
http://www.ppa.pl/forum/komentarze/33196/nowa-mysz-optyczna-dla-amig-klasycznych#komentarze

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@olegil

Yeah, it's possible they do work in different ways - the Freewheel driver isn't the actual low-level driver in most cases, it just converts wheel movements messages into scroll movements in windows that don't already support it, such as 3.x Workbench windows. There also has to be low-level software that reads the raw input and converts it to the wheel events in the first place. The website for the Micromys adaptor says that it uses the 3rd mouse button signal, as it can be started in 3-button mode or 2-button + driver mode.

The reason I guessed Cocolino in the first place was that it's a model AmigaKit already sell, and because they say that they've teamed up with Elbox. It seems to be the same mouse that is sold for the AmigaOnes, which would suggest it's that A-Eon PS/2 mouse coupled with an Elbox Cocolino. Not a bad combination.

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hmm.. i using aeons usb mouse option with my a1200.. just a double capure of joy1.. i still have 1 optical mouse and 2 joystick ports


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