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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 20-Nov-2016 17:33:18
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When I try to go to a site like www.washingtonpost.com I get a requester asking for an http: volume. Is that supposed to happen? _________________ -- -=#Val#=- Valiant@Camelot
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 20-Nov-2016 17:50:34
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 20-Nov-2016 18:57:59
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 20-Nov-2016 22:35:26
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| Great to see an update, been ages since I tried NetSurf will have to give this a go. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 21-Nov-2016 11:17:20
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| NetSurf 3.6 SDL version with auto-conversion to mpeg1 of videos and youtube is also available. More details at: ami-soft.blogspot.com Last edited by amimaniac on 21-Nov-2016 at 11:21 AM.
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 22-Nov-2016 10:10:53
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| When trying to start Netsurf-nofpu I get "Unable to initialise the font system", and SnoopDos fails to open Fonts/DejaVuSans.tt (I guess .ttf, and that Snoopdos window is cutting off the last letter).
Obviously I dont have that font in my Fonts directory, and today I cant access Aminet it seems. Just posting to see if its something else that would produce such a output beyond missing font...? And where can I download this font? |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 22-Nov-2016 15:57:46
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| You are talking about Arti's SDL / Frambuffer hack.
I haven't had that kind of font problems with Netsurf. Last edited by utri007 on 22-Nov-2016 at 04:13 PM.
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 22-Nov-2016 16:18:05
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 22-Nov-2016 23:16:22
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| It would be great if my threads stopped being hijacked with talk of the SDL version. It causes enough confusion as it is, keep them separate please. _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 23-Nov-2016 16:02:46
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| It usefull now. Memory fragmention problem is gone thanks to Olaf Barthel aka. Olsen.
It lost some speed, but Olsen things that his week old memory management system will speed up latter. Last edited by utri007 on 23-Nov-2016 at 04:03 PM.
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 23-Nov-2016 22:36:38
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| @utri007 Quote:
You are talking about Arti's SDL / Frambuffer hack. |
can you please stop your usual bashing mantra, disencouraging people who actually actively do a lot of stuff and that since years. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 24-Nov-2016 7:18:03
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| You are so sensitive. It is not bashing. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 24-Nov-2016 20:48:11
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| Just tested OS3 version (Reaction; WinUAE/OS3.X): It works! Well, default fonts are ugly and rendering is sometimes broken - other than that well done. Tabbed browsing is nice. Downloading works. Clipboard copy/paste works. Resizing window works. Loading page speed is OK. Screen redraw and scrolling are sloooow. There are no context menus. Seems to be stable so far. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 24-Nov-2016 22:37:56
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| pavlor: With emulator you might want to turn true type fonts ON. By default it is using bitmap fonts wich are much faster with real hardware. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 25-Nov-2016 13:02:52
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| I don't think that rendering is "broken" but rather that it's lacking fuctions still. Some time ago it rendered lots of pages correctly but that's not the case anymore. I think that sites are using new functions that Netsurf doesn't support yet?
That said, I like Netsurf but it's falling behind. Feels a little like the Amiga browsers situation from the past, always being behind and playing catch-up.
At least the Amiga-pages displays correctly including those using CSS and it's fast compared to Odyssey so I'm glad that we have Netsurf :) .
Of the versions that I've tried I think that it's the nicest port also, the OS 4 version. I haven't tried the other version, not yet at least. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 25-Nov-2016 13:33:32
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I don't think that rendering is "broken" but rather that it's lacking fuctions still. Some time ago it rendered lots of pages correctly but that's not the case anymore. I think that sites are using new functions that Netsurf doesn't support yet? |
We don't support Media Queries which is resulting in sites showing the wrong version - you tend to get the mobile version rather than the desktop version. I believe this is being worked on.
That's the only major layout problem I am aware of (aside from JS-related ones). Anything else needs to be raised on the bugtracker. _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 25-Nov-2016 15:26:54
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Turn off javascript in Odyssey and watch the difference...
By rendering bugs I mean some pages aren´t displayed as good as in NetSurf/OS4 (eg. Wikipedia). |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 25-Nov-2016 16:46:06
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To be fair you need to turn off JS in NetSurf too, and I think speed differences are very configuration or hardware dependant, as NetSurf is definitely faster than Odyssey here. It's worth switching on "cache native bitmaps" as that makes a big difference, as does switching off "font anti-aliasing".
Rendering bugs could do with some screenshots and a bit more information, preferably somewhere other than this news thread (and probably not on the bugtracker if it's OS3 specific, although that's OK too) Last edited by Chris_Y on 25-Nov-2016 at 04:48 PM.
_________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 25-Nov-2016 22:36:15
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| I've tried switching javascript on/off but Netsurf is still faster.
I can post a couple of sites off the top of my head and that would be www.dn.se, www.expressen.se, www.idg.se
They used to look fine but looks horrible now. I don't know the exact reason and it was just a guess that some functions are missing, I have no idea really. |
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Re: NetSurf 3.6 web browser released! Posted on 26-Nov-2016 15:27:01
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Thanks!
Quick test of the SDL version: Window resize works! Copy/paste works. Page scrolling is fast (speed of light in comparison to Reaction version ). No tabs.  When I click to change address, new window opens on my MUI default screen, weird. |
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