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awesome as usual! thanks Andreas

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Despite the need for Windows this is a great feature allowing Amiga programmers to not only generate programs for Amiga multi platforms but also to generate them for use on an Android device as an application.

Good to expand on the ability to edit and test on Amiga where a lot of us would feel comfortable. This may be what I need to jump on the bandwagon and write my own app just for fun.

How does the cost of Hollywood compare to a dedicated APK SDK?

What I wonder is if Linux P/PC can be used for the compiler? Since Android is supposed to be on Linux and Linux would have the support needed this makes sense.

What's next an iTunes compiler?

My question may seems silly, but does rapaGUI works with this?
I guess no because there is no rapagui plugin for android

Last edited by DC_Edge on 02-May-2017 at 10:08 AM.

Neat, I just wished I had more time for Hollywood apps, but i did enjoy hollywood 5 and more the easy of designing apps on Hollywood Designer, I hope that gets an update, that might make me upgrade.

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Eghmmm..... don't know why, but I was dead sure that APK Compiler runs natively on AmigaOS and its compatibles.

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My question may seems silly, but does rapaGUI works with this?

No. Android has a totally different UI. For a starter: there's no concept of windows at all.

It's pretty different to write for a touch UI instead of a desktop UI.

Here's a small example (reaction test) of a touch port from a desktop program:

Amiga: http://www.hethis.de/files/R2Z_68k.lha
The same for Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.hethis.r2z (use in landsacpe format)

common website: http://via.i-networx.de/R2Z/about.htm

This was a rather easy adoption, but nonetheless even that took a while.

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How does the cost of Hollywood compare to a dedicated APK SDK?

Google's Android SDK is free of charge. But the default language is Java and you cannot work on Amiga with it. I cannot program Java (and am too lazy & stupid to learn it) and hesitated from jumping over the hurdles to actually write C++ for Android (it's possible, but seems to be a bit complicated to set up. Hollywood came in very handy then. Setting up the dev environment was easy and straight forward.

Advantage of Hollywood for Android programming: It's easy. It really is. Programming wise. Making a good program layout is not easy though (I think my biggest project¹ so far is not really well done: It's a bit bulky to use, seems very simple, just is not impressing, but was quite a lot of work under the hood. I learned quite much writing it though... Maybe I do a complete rewrite to free me from my misconceptions. It seems I am too used to desktop computer usage).

Disadvantage of Hollywood for Android: You miss all the useful and capable Android libraries: Try to access the camera with Hollywood - dunno how that should work... Try to offer InApp sales - not possible (at least not yet), speed up your gfx with gl, nfortunately not possible (yet) since Android features GL _ES_ (which is not compatible to Hollywood's GL galore plugin).

Bottom line: It's very nice and probably one of the easiest ways to make an Android app. I
enjoy very much to write the actual code on my MorphOS machines and so on and can really recomend it. But if you want to get deeper into app development with advanced features, you need to go the official sdk (Java) route. I think Hollywood for Android is primarily good for rather simple games and multimedia content.

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¹this is my biggest Android project so far:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.hethis.hiwd
project webpage: http://via.i-networx.de/HIW/about_en.htm (Android, Windows, MorphOS)

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@Zylesea

Thanks for your insight. I realised after posting this that the offical SDK is most likely free and confirmed this after a Google. It does seem surprising C++ is hard to work with on Android or setup as it seems to be everywhere and in the end it would be compiled as Java byte code. Well it would in the usual case. Perhaps this reliance on Java and not a "real" binary is why my phone is slow at times.

My only real experience with Java is these "weird" programs I have downloaded on PC or Mac that look kind of fake and are hard to start. If they start at all. It was kind of messy to me. So it's good there is something useful made with it. After that experience I didn't think AmigaOS was missing much at all without it. As a language, like most I see today, it just looks like a variation C/C++.

It's hard to say what needs I would have. I have some ideas floating about but no idea how hard they would be to implement. After Amiga programming I tend to think that programming in a modern IDE would be easy as with a GUI layout editor, structured gfx editor, super editor, program flow chart editor and package compiler all in one!

I still think personally, html and javascrpit will eventually become the main universal code to make programs in, its already happening, and you can compile html5 apps to android, this is why I still think priority no1 for NG amiga is a modern browser.

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Nice!