At last change logs coming with news items! Cool!

And updated Warp3DNova is quite cool too, it makes all of Radeon RX 570/580 works now with all the stuff!

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Love it! Thanks to Hans and all involved

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Warp3DNova and related software is progressing very well.

Well done to Hans and team.


redfox

And now if you have not bought a Rx570/580 already you will need to rob a bank to pay for one.

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OS4.1 latest update.
1ghz Radeon Club3d 9250
Usb/Dma fixed.

Glad I am not a current Amiga user. I just don't get it. We had all flavours of Amiga-like OSes, now there's different upgrade paths to OS4? Or is that not what this is? Are Hyperion updates destructive to enhancer releases? As with these updates and Hyperion and Colanto, is it now a battle to win the hearts and minds of Amiga users? I guess the judge will decide a lot of this despite the court of public opinion.

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@A1200
Things look like a mess, for sure. But until Ben is the owner of Hyperion and has rights for OS4, that mess will be continued. I not sure if the many developers left willing to work with Ben anymore. So a day will come when he will be in the hope to sell what he owns related to AmigaOS4, but no one will pay for shit, as there will be everything replaced already.

Ben will spend a shit into AmigaOS4 developments (or to any kind of amiga development) but will milk everything possible from those ones working for free under his control. Sadly.

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@All
Ok my RX580 works now with W3D Nova.
But in my opinion my R9 280x is faster and boot everytime without problems.
Why is that?
And another problem need to be solved. In many case with RX card X5000 halt in warmboot with white screen and locked mouse pointer... Why so much problem with boot with RX cards..
Only benefit from RX card now is video acceleration.
Not in games🥴

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@A1200

These are my opinions, based on first hand experince and observation from afar ...

Hyperion went to sleep for many years. Updates and fixes were not released to the public.

Meanwhile, A-EON stepped up to the plate to provide graphics drivers and Enhancer Software.

Many users, including me, bought the Enhancer Software package.

Then Hyperion woke up again and released the following ...
AmigaOS 3.1.4
AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2, followed by a HOTFIX for Update 2
AmigaOS 3.2


The cynic in me believes that Hyperion released these packages to prove to the court that Hyperion was still alive and active.

Cynic mode off ...



I own and use a very old OS4 system ...

MicroA1 with IBM PPC 750 GX CPU and 256 MB RAM
onboard ATI Radeon 7000 graphics chip with 32 MB graphics RAM.

I started with a pre-release version of AmigaOS4 and have upgraded to every public release of OS4.

After Hyperion released AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 1, they seemed to go dormant for many years. I purchased Enhancer Software v1.5 to add some enhancements to my system.

The enhancements included replacements for some existing system commands and a new sound system that replaced the existing sound system.

AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition Update 2 updated most of the system commands and reintroduced the OS4 sound system.

So, yes, it does appear in some ways that Hyperion and A-EON are pissing on each other's changes.

The latest OS4 update clobbered certain changes that were made previously by Enhancer, and ongoing updates from A-EON replace some OS4 components.

Of course, I as a user can choose to update or not to update.

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@A1200

IMHO, yes, there are two upgrade paths for OS4 users ...

- if you have a system with an HD graphics card then you require Enhancer Software.

- if you have a system like mine, then you don't. I cannot upgrade the graphics on my system.


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@Plexus

Official word :
Warm boot or Soft-reset does not work with Radeon RX cards and the AmigaOS 4.x Radeon RX driver.
Status not expected to change .

Ctrl+Alt+Alt hard resets is the option that works.

What other problems are you having at boot time with Polaris RX Cards?

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As Spectre says warm-reboot didn't work on RAdeonRX.

As for speed: with all the latest drivers speed should be no worse than on RadeonHD, and in some parts even better. You should be sure you have all the latest drivers and, which is _VERY_ important use power-prefs-tool to set/save "HIGH" value for the speed. By default, Radeon RX works in some slow mode, and for some reasons, (seems because of missing DMA, but that unclear and can be anything else) drivers didn't raise resource at maximum when need it.

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@all
Yes I have power management settings on high!
I know warm boot not work... But its sems my problem with two ram slot used with cold boot..
Lets explain when boot 10 Times of cold boot only two will get me into workbench.. But problem solved... I use only one ramslot and with rx580.

But before me can boot without problem r9 280x and two ramslot used... But not with rx

Me for sure somthing very strange is going on with different graphics card 😀

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@all
Why do my X5000 boot superfast with 1 ram slot used with 2gb instead of use 2 ramslot with 4 gb.
It boot under 13 sek with 2gb in one slot?
When I use 2 ramslot with 4 gb it takes 35 sek to boot into workbench if IM Lucky to get in😭
If use one slot of ram no more random lockups in booting into workbench and boot superfast.. I first not belive my eyes.
this boot problem was only with RX cards and 2 ramslot used..
Maybe better buy one big ddr3 ram to use in one slot only
If I want to go with the RX...
Hmmm testing testing...

One more thing I not belive only me got this problems..
All components and 3ddrivers of os is 100% up to date..
Latest of everything i have doublechecked

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@redfox

Quote:

The latest OS4 update clobbered certain changes that were made previously by Enhancer, and ongoing updates from A-EON replace some OS4 components.

To be honest, as much as one might not like Hyperion, I believe A-EON is at fault here.
I don't like this behaviour of replacing system commands with their own versions, they should've named them differently, I don't want them messing with my system.
This is basically THE single reason why I'm not buying Enhancer and never will.

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@redfox

Well it is not that bad like Powerup vs Warpup!

You can select what to install when using Enhancer, the big plus is offcourse Nova and RadeonHD.

For now only use one 2gb stick. Because SSD faster with one and 100% sure for safe boot straight in to workbench...

I have get rid of boot problems.
But now I only use one 2 gb ram stick in one slot.

And The fact is that my X5000 boot in
13 secs.
And when I try with one 4 gb stick in one slot it boots slower at 35 sec.

I start count from splash X5000 logo boot pic dissapears.

13 sec vs 35 sec is a big different.
And with 2 gb stick in one slots makes my SSD faster in loading every games and program... I just curious why is that..

When I put back my 4 gb stick SSD is slower again... So for now I do not want use more than 2 gb ram before this problem is solved😀
My SSD in my X5000 is so much faster with maximum 2gb stick

One more thing when I use only one stick of 2gb ram stick. My computer never failed to boot, not a singel time...and that with RX580 gfx card...

When I Try my R9 280x card no problem with boot either in any cases. But its still boot my X5000 faster with one 2gb Ram stick.
I only want people tryout for them self...
For example: put in only one 2gb stick in ram slot nearest cpu on your X5000.
And tell me it not load faster.... Much faster with SSD...

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@Plexus
You may have missed it , but from day one when x5000 ht the publc, it was known that 4gb sticks make whole things be slower in compare with 2gb sticks. As issue is known for years and wasn't fixed, i am also sure it will never be fixed, so just stick to 2gb.

You anyway can't use in normal way more thatn 1.8gb of system memory under amigaos4 (and same for morphos on x5000), so there no needs to have 4gb at all. Maybe only for linux, but for linux 2gb is enough as well, imho.

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