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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : PERSONAL PAINT 7.4 UPDATE
   posted by amigakit on 27-Apr-2024 15:48:34 (1169 reads)
PERSONAL PAINT 7.4 UPDATE: ARM NATIVE ACCELERATION FOR THE A600GS

A-EON Technology purchased rights to Personal Paint from Cloanto in 2014 which has led to notable development over the last decade for both Classic Amiga systems and Next Generation systems.

Personal Paint has a rich record of being bundled with home computers over the years. In 1996 PPaint 6.4 was part of the Escom's Amiga 1200 Magic Pack. Even more recently in 2016, PPaint 7.3 was bundled with A-EON's powerful X5000 computer system. In 2024 the tradition continues with a new version 7.4 being pre-installed on the forthcoming A600GS. Read full news by clicking here

A-EON's latest update to this famous paint package accelerates 1080P and larger high resolution screens. 1080P is the resolution that most HDMI televisions operate at and the default screen mode of the A600GS. The drawing tools at this resolution would ordinarily be very slow. However they have now been significantly accelerated by using ARM native code.

The latest Personal Paint 7.4 from A-EON is ready-to-run on the A600GS and will bring a nostalgic paint package experience to modern 1080P televisions.

Trevor Dickinson, A-EON’s co-founder commented: “Personal Paint became the leading easy-to-use Amiga program for bitmapped graphics and animation and was one of the first to support AGA and RTG. We developed updated versions for both 68K and PowerPC, and it's great to see the ARM accelerated version joining the family."

Personal Paint 7.4 will be launched in Q2/2024 on the A600GS computer system.



    

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Re: PERSONAL PAINT 7.4 UPDATE
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It's nice that this is getting an update for ARM.


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A-EON's latest update to this famous paint package accelerates 1080P and larger high resolution screens. 1080P is the resolution that most HDMI televisions operate at and the default screen mode of the A600GS. The drawing tools at this resolution would ordinarily be very slow. However they have now been significantly accelerated by using ARM native code.


They say a picture is worth a thousand words, imagine if you chosen to use video...

If only there was a way to compare the "drawing tools" running "ordinarily be very slow" with how they perform " significantly accelerated by using ARM native code"...

Mind blown!


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To get real info from AmigaKit is like solving riddles…

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The drawing tools at this resolution would ordinarily be very slow. However they have now been significantly accelerated by using ARM native code.


So I’m guessing - ARM native ppaint blitter library?

Still no answer to the question of ARexx, which largely is what makes PPaint useful for more advanced stuff than just rudimentary pixell graphics. Animation is rather painful compared to DPaint, and using ARexx is the only thing that somewhat compensate for that.


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@pixie

I agree that a video comparison would be a good idea but with less sarcasm.

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I guess "A600GS" here is the native graphics driver to use the host (ARM) graphics hardware (same concept as UAEGFX in UAE).


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@Rob
As long as it is made it doesn't even need to use sarcasm! xD

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I guess "A600GS" here is the native graphics driver to use the host (ARM) graphics hardware (same concept as UAEGFX in UAE)


My guess is that it _is_ UAEGFX.


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I always though uaegfx to be some kind of wrapper to the GFX board, so it means it's actually the CPU doing the grunt work?


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so it means it's actually the CPU doing the grunt work?

Yes, but, it’s not 68K code its native host instructions (PPC or x86).
It is a frame buffer, but not everything, has to be copied from system memory to gfx memory, some routines, like RectFill can bypass the copy function.

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I see... I guess that UAEGFX also do the same. Pistorm is perhaps the only one who is using the GFX directly, or had a GFX drivers proof of concept that did it anyway


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The main reason for using a frame buffer, is because of buss speed, if do many single write bytes to video memory, you need to lock and unlock the bitmap of the screen, but memory has to be continues, it used to be a 64Kbytes VGA window, but sure that has changed, but to programs its not know, how that work, if MMU based, or if copy mem based, the memory is only available when its locked. The lock also seems to block intuition, so you can’t have it locked all the time. Its not know when If you compare the driver docs and P96 library docs.

https://wiki.amigaos.net/amiga/autodocs/Picasso96API.doc.txt
http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/P96_Driver_Development

You see that lock / unlock is only know to the library not the driver, its there for also hard to know when the memory is changed, at any location. This is another reason why you want a frame a buffer.

The frame buffer means, you need to operation twice, in system memory and gfx memory, or that you copy changes to gfx memory, p96 trys to find minimum x,y and max x,y changes, and only copy that change. So its faster than complete screen update.

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