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News   News : New Intuitive Computer Interface Project
   posted by BrianHoskins on 27-Oct-2003 18:55:52 (2442 reads)
Mitch Kapor, founder of Lotus developments and a respected software programmer is heading a team of software Engineers in an attempt to create a new, more Intuitive computer interface that "could change the way we manage our digital lives"

Codenamed "Chandler", it's an open-source project funded quite heavily by Mitch himself, and supported by such historic software Engineers as Andy Hertzfeld, famous for work on the original MAC Operating System; and Lou Montulli, one of the founders of Netscape.

The aim is to create a revolutionary type of computer interface which groups all forms of data into one place and allows the user to access them all from one program - Chandler. The hope is that Chandler will bring the power of computers back to who it matters to most - the users.

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Re: New Intuitive Computer Interface Project
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Kind of reminds me of a certain "Digital Environment". How about you guys?


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@Billsey
I just had a quick read but it sounds more like rebol than DE to me. I dont think they will come up with something really new and easy to use anyway, another fiasco perhaps...


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While reading part of it I thought, "Man this guy just needs to stop using Windows and start using Amiga OS. With all that money he could write some really good, small, easy to us apps."

Then while reading another part about having everything intergrated I couldn't help but think, "Gee, does this mean if I accidently click the wrong button while watching PrOn it could get emailed to my Mom?" Doesn't sound any good to me!


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I'm sorry, to me he ranks below amateur. If he's willing to put up $5,000,000, heck he could have bought Amiga Inc. and really done something.

Well, we can all laugh at his attempt to re-create BeOS (in 2 or 3 years from now).

Didn't Wang in the late 80's and NextStep try to be that too?

Open source?? I thought he was an entrepeneur?


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Come on guys, give the guy some slack. We really should not deride or redicule this guy for trying to do something he sees as important.

Are we not also trying to do something that is important to us(ressurect the Amiga) that many others would scoff at? Should we then also be subject to that same kind of redicule and or derision?


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olegil 
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Amen, brother.

It's like the /. crowd feeling that the Amiga should die, because it's not mainstream enough. Duh, it's a site for NERDS, god damnit. Likewise, if we start joking about other peoples non-mainstream projects, what are we? The worlds biggest hypocrites?


Btw:
I didn't read the article, BECAUSE I REFUSE TO REGISTER ON ANY MORE SITES JUST TO READ SOME GOD DAMN TEXT. Thanks for listening


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Ahaa, when i read it, there were no need to register. They must have slipped. I never register either to read stuff like this.


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There's no need to register at the site just to read the information there.

I'm not yet decided on whether the project is going to turn out good or bad, but Mitch obviously believes in it having contributed 5mil of his own dosh!!!

It's interesting, none the less

Brian

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There was a computer manufactured in low numbers, to a design of one of the
Mac people (forget name) over 10 years back.

He integrated simple-to-use GUI features that out-performed those of Apple.
Basically, he was frustrated by Apple ignoring what he wanted to do!
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Just found the platform I have in mind- the Canon Cat
There's a bit of info about its creator: Jef Raskin.

Canon Cat picture
Canon Cat
Canon's Cat Computer: The Real Macintosh
Raskin had the following to say about the Cat in July 1987-
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It is as advanced (in terms of human interface) over the Mac as the Mac was an advance in its day. . . . . . .

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You moved through your data using two extra keys called Leap keys located in front of the spacebar key and by typing strings of characters. The Cat jumped to the next occurrence of that string. Raskin claimed that the Cat's Leap-key search method to scroll from the top to the bottom of the page took 2 seconds, a mouse took 4 seconds, and cursor took 8 seconds. Larger documents increased these search ratios.

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The Cat used a 256K floppy disk for storage. Each disk held the entire contents of the Cat's memory in addition to system configuration parameters, the user's personal spelling dictionary, and the bit-map for the screen. When you inserted a disk the Cat read the disk's entire contents into the Cat's memory including the last saved screen image. This feature allowed users to transfer their entire Cat environment to another Cat by just taking their disk from one Cat and inserting it into another Cat.

Bruce Tognazzini, a computer user interface guru who worked for Apple said in 1992-
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. . . the Find function on the Canon Cat is some 50 times faster than the same function on the Macintosh.

Raskin's thoughts on user interfaces in 1994-
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The current paradigm of using application programs is inherently wrong from an interface design point of view. This is widely recognized, but the solution offered is to make them inter operable, which solves some of the problems but by no means all. GUIs as presently designed and used are an interface dead end. Though they can be patched endlessly, a large jump in usability can only come from a completely different approach. The Cat computer, which I developed for Canon, demonstrated that my alternate approach is implementable and both more productive and more pleasant than GUIs.


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Hey .. thats pretty kewl, John.


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How come all these kewl innovations past me by without me noticing ?


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Oh yeah ..

I agree with Olegil about the registering just to read article.


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