- Thousands of applications which don't need recompilation
- Straightforward language with at least two powerful IDEs

In other words: benefitial to both users and developers.

Plus, we'd earn one more willing and able developer:

ME!

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One very good reason... Openoffice.org uses Java.

-the Phantom "?"

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@mwoof

Are you able to code in C at all? If so, please consider contributing to JAmiga. The JVM is fully operational; it's the class library that's missing bits. The reason that we don't have Java is not for lack of need. It's a matter of getting the native parts of the class libraries implemented.

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You think I wouldn't try if I had even half decent skills in C? I can hardly write the "Hello world" program...

So, at this stage, I too depend on the experienced programmers...

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@mwoof

Is anything still happening with jamiga? Last news was long ago, forums broke and were never fixed, etc... If someone did want to help, how do you get the sources and information on what and how to do it?

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@billt

Coffe please

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Cocoa!

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billt wrote: @mwoof Is anything still happening with jamiga? Last news was long ago, forums broke and were never fixed, etc... If someone did want to help, how do you get the sources and information on what and how to do it?

No idea if any work happened. The person to contact is Peter Werno. You could try both the JAmiga address and source-forge one.

I just looked at the "daily source tarball," and the most recent file modification date in that is from two years ago. The CVS on sourceforge hasn't seen any activity in years and is even older than the tarball version. I'm guessing that Peter Werno and Andre Dörffler ran out of spare time to work on this.

Does anyone here know either of the two developers? If it's been abandoned, then it would be worth trying to get a copy of the most recent code off them.

Hans

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BTW, how many Java attempts for Amiga OS have there been so far? I remember:
- Merapi (Haage & Partner, killed by Sun Microsystems' licensing requirements)
- Kaffe (open-source port, never got AWT/Swing done)
- Moca (Finale Development, never even saw a screenshot)
- Koffie (by Jacco van Weert, saw screenshots, but it disappeared)
- Cacao (port by someone I can't remember, missing native AWT implementation etc., status unknown)
- JAmiga (working JVM, incomplete AWT, status unknown)

There's quite a grave-yard of Java runtime attempts there.

Hans

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We could have SableVM ported. Even for Cygnix, that would be a start! I tried to compile it but got an error that some library was missing (I think it had to do with threads). I used Find on both the Amiga and Cygnix SDK but no result...

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@mwoof

We already have enough JVMs. The problem is not the JVM, it's the Java class libraries that require native implementations. This has been the stumbling point of most, if not all, of the Java for Amiga attempts.

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Why not implement the Java class libraries as part of the operating system?

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Coffe please

??? Don't understand

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billt wrote: @Kicko Quote: Coffe please ??? Don't understand

Java coffe?

@billt

The trademark of Java is a cup of coffee.

I can only assume that the island of Java is a main coffee producing area.

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Ah: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_coffee

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@Hans
Peter used to visit irc occasionally, but I don't recall seeing him for some time. I believe his email address is published on the jamiga site, but the source tarball is also on the site if someone wanted to try to progress any further. There were some compilation issues on OS4, that I THINK we'd gotten sorted, but haven't looked at it in ages, and last attempt to build was unsucessful (on OS4).

PS - and yes, we need eclipse + java apps, as well as for dependencies like OO.org as mentioned...nothing new there

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- Thousands of applications which don't need recompilation

We have AA2 for this.
/me runs.

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AmigaBlitter wrote: @mwoof Quote: - Thousands of applications which don't need recompilation We have AA2 for this. /me runs.

Except for the "thousands" part

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wegster wrote: @Hans Peter used to visit irc occasionally, but I don't recall seeing him for some time. I believe his email address is published on the jamiga site, but the source tarball is also on the site if someone wanted to try to progress any further.

I asked him about progress a while ago and he had made some changes since the source tarball. If he managed to get something extra working then it would be nice to get updated code.

Hans

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There's a frontend for LLVM based on GCJ. I'm already working on porting LLVM to AROS, with more Amiga-like OSs to follow. We'll just need a native port of GNU ClassPath.