@T-J

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Are these Amiga branded PCs ever going to run an x86-64 port of the AmigaOS and thus become real Amiga computers? Before today I would have said that the cost would prohibit this, but if you can afford a $30m ad campaign, wouldn't a million or two so Hyperion can hire extra developers and bring the AmigaOS to the cutting edge also be within your means?

1. Hyperion will not do a x86 port
2. even if they had 3 billion dollars, I'd still say it'd be a complete waste of 3 billion dollars to port and "bring AmigaOS to the cutting edge"...
3. If this was 2000., I'd be closer to your points over AmigaOS. Today it's too late for AOS to reappear as anything other then a hobby OS.

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@BigBenTheAussie

Just because they're extremely successful media men / lawyers / money people , doesn't mean they're not still paper people when placed next to engineers.

Jay Miner was an engineer, not a businessman, and it was his leadership and his idea of how to build a real computer that made the Amiga Corporation and the Amiga itself something worth remembering and rebuilding. That's why I think more highly of the Hyperion-ACube-A-Eon trifecta than I do of CommodoreUSA. They remind me of the Amiga Corporation.


And about the purchasers of Phoenixes - I'd have expected them to post on some sort of Commodore fansite. This is an Amiga fansite, so the Phoenix would have limited appeal here.

@WolfToTheMoon

Let's just give up then. What's the point of trying to achieve anything, after all, when you can just shuffle bits of paper around and make up marketing guff about why this x86 PC is better than that one. Look, its got the chickenhead on it!

Last edited by T-J on 16-Sep-2010 at 04:38 PM.

@T-J

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While I have your attention, has CommodoreUSA made any contact with Hyperion?

Yep. Well before Amiga Inc.

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Are these Amiga branded PCs ever going to run an x86-64 port of the AmigaOS and thus become real Amiga computers?

You mean like AROS.
If you mean Hyperion's product....that is entirely up to Hyperion.

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Before today I would have said that the cost would prohibit this, but if you can afford a $30m ad campaign, wouldn't a million or two so Hyperion can hire extra developers and bring the AmigaOS to the cutting edge also be within your means?

Unlike old Commodore we're going to spend a hell of a lot on advertising.
Hyperion and MorphOS team don't want to port to x86.
What can I do?

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And do you plan to talk to any other Amiga-related company about branding or marketing? Having a PowerAmiga lineup for the enthusiast alongside your x86 games machines would add value to the brand.

Like what Amiga-related company? No seriously... what?
We have Commodore brand, we have Amiga brand, we have advertising and marketing heavyweights.
And believe it or not, most importantly, very soon we'll even have new products for you to pick to pieces.

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@T-J
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The saddest thing though is that CommodoreUSA's money men are coming in and stamping all over the efforts of smaller groups of engineers and developers. You know, people who actually do stuff?

Hmm... I hate to be the one to point this out, but I'm sure that is how many AROS, MorphOS, Amithlon and/or UAE developers and users felt in the early part of the past decade when Hyperion (supported to some extend by Amiga Inc.) painted them all with the same brush, accusing some of doing illegal things, when at the time, all they actually had was a license from Amiga Inc. but still nothing to show anyone...which only came many years later. And these developers were...you know, people who actually HAD DONE stuff by that point.

Bottom line is that it's business and they've all done something that could be perceived as trampling on others' their efforts, although it was probably not their intention.

I see each new Amiga venture, including but limited to EON's X1000 platform and C= USA's systems, as an opportunity to re-ignite, re-envirogorate and revitalize the Amiga brand, platform and/or spirit of creativity and innovation that once used to be so prevalent in this community to different and wider audiences... Many things Amiga were not "it can't be done" or "you can't do that"...it was instead "watch me do it/get it done"...usually followed by a "WOW! How'd they do that?!?!?!?!" This is after all a large part of what Amiga was known for and this is what I would like to see again some day.

I'm not expecting any of these things to happen over night or without substantial resources and money, and I am realistic that it is unlikely to ever happen, but I'm nevertheless hopeful and applaud anyone that has the cojones to try to make something/ANYTHING happen/move forward.

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