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Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval board
Posted on 13-Aug-2004 16:53:49
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It would not be possible to run BeOS on this, BeOS only runs on the BeBox and 603/604 Macs, Apple would not give Be Inc the docs for the G3 systems when they laucnehed and Be had no wish nor the resources to reverse engineer a solution from the hardware, Mac OS binaries and Linux driver source code for such a small market, they stopped developing for PPC and went entirly x86


I mostly had the smaller die hard, BeOs freaks in mind, because the probably would be the only ones willing to buy, a dedicated "BeBox".

I must amit that i did not do my homework about, the status of the varius open source, BeOs derived operating systems.

I have however done a litle homework, about what makes the old BeBox hardware special.

And came out with this conlusion in short.
Highend dual cpu hardware, if I remember correctly at the time it reached market it was had a quite good price/performance ratio, cheap dual cpu solution.

"the geak port", which in short allows cheap comercial / homemade hardware to be
connected to the BeBox.
the geak port in it self is not the most complex hardware

I imagine that using open source BeOs implemplementations, the only way to go creating a complete BeBox-BeOs solution.

 
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      Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boardBrianK13-Aug-2004 17:05:11
          Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster13-Aug-2004 19:31:14
          Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster13-Aug-2004 19:57:48
              Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boardBrianK13-Aug-2004 20:49:43
                  Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster14-Aug-2004 9:35:11
      Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster13-Aug-2004 19:47:16
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              Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster14-Aug-2004 9:52:34
              Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boardHammer14-Aug-2004 11:45:04
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              Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster14-Aug-2004 16:32:55
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                      Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster17-Aug-2004 12:08:43
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                              Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster17-Aug-2004 21:03:13
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                                      Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval boarddigitaldisaster20-Aug-2004 22:12:41
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Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval board
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@digitaldisaster

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yellowTAB make a product called Zeta which is bassed on the unfinished and unrealesed BeOS r6 aka Dano. This is x86 only and noone outside of yellowTAB even knows if they have the source code (a lot of work is simply drivers and apps, the rest can be done without the source but is not as easy as it would be with it)


YellowTab were/are interested in a Peg port after they've done R1. As for them not having the code, they're not saying as they're under NDA - but, yes they've got it.
Also IIRC all the released versions of BeOS run on PPC (even up to R5).

@BrianK

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With the more recent versions of BeOS built on x86 I can't see why they'd want to do a PPC and a x86 version of Haiku. But, if someone were to write a virtual machine which would run first then the x86 Haiku were to run on top of that I'd think it'd be a better way to go about it.


It's probably a lot quicker to port the OS!
Also BeOS (and thus Haiku) is based on much the same philosophy as the Amiga and running on a virtual machine is pretty much 100% contary to that.

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Re: Momentum PPC 970 eval board
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It would not be possible to run BeOS on this....


Axel Dörfler has a Pegasos board and has been working on porting Haiku (formerly OpenBeOS) to it. Genesi has been in touch with Michael Phipps, the Haiku project leader, from time to time, and they are interested in getting Haiku back on PowerPC machines, with the Pegasos being the point of re-entry. I don't know what additional work would be involved in supporting this G5 board, but at least there is movement in that direction.

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