i hope there doesn´t start the typical war (my platform is better/faster/more software than your platform discussion). From Marketing view i would say it is good to have product that is clearly differentiating from competition. In my personal view that is obvious for f.e. the Natami, that is not the case (at least not as obvious) for Aros and AmigaOS 4. But Aros has the advantage to be opensource and running on cheap standard hardware. When you want to try AmigaOS you have to invest a big sum and it is not really differentiating from other platforms.
Or how would you describe the unique selling points of AmigaOS compared to other platforms (Aros, Natami (Classic), Windows, MacOS...). Where is it better? I didn´t read anything about that up to now. When there is no real answer the platform has a (marketing) problem
@-Sam- To put it differently: you decide the next Amiga won't have the chipset "fixed" on the mobo but it will be modular instead (see C= Defcon 93 papers) the OS guys want to drive GFX and sound acceleration stuff, so new designs have to be made to fill the dedicated slots of the modular motherboard. You ask a team to develop them for you, but they are late and third parties come in saying "Oh, I'll fill those for you, and my stuff is ready, cheaper and more powerful, what do you say?". You say "yes please" and move on.
I assume Dave had the best possible intentions back then, but unfortunately they didn't result in anything that did the original OCS (in terms of being "ahead") any justice. As I said, too little too late in the best case scenario (nothing at all in the worst).
What amazes me is his comment in 2011. The reason the X1000 uses PCI-E 16X with possibly a Radeon-4890, isn't because though tempted by AAAAA A-Eon chose otherwise, but simply because the world has changed and NO-ONE even with billions can compete with the likes of ATI and Nvidia.
Even Sony or MS uber consoles use Nvidia and ATI stuff nowadays (consoles used to have custom chipsets too) simply because the world has changed.
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Yes - Natami is the most 'Amiga like system' but you cannot stage a comeback from this. Running ye olde 3.9 and possibly some variant of x86 AROS? A cool toy - but nothing more. Sorry - not trying to demean Natami here as it is a decent sounding system but it isn't what I would use as a base to try and rebuild a market.
Not even most Natami team members would claim that it would be a suitable base to rebuild the Amiga-market. Maybe a few rabid fanboys on their forums would.
But they don't need that. Natami will be a fun niche product, and it could very well significantly revitalize the classic Amiga niche - after all it won't take much. Even a few hundred sold would be a massive shot in the arm for the classic scene. Heck, even a dozen or two in the hands of dedicated developers would make a difference.
I'm guessing Haynie sees it from a similar position. If you don't see *any* Amiga like machine or OS as sufficient to become more than a toy, then Natami is pretty much the coolest Amiga-like toy on the way. The FPGA "Amiga's" safeguard the classic scene from hardware death - it'll always be possible to make more of them, and it'll get cheaper and cheaper to build faster and faster system.
But if you want an alternative for your day to day computing uses, on the other hand, it's a very different calculation and X1000 becomes much more interesting.
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