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Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000
Posted on 18-Apr-2011 3:04:34
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@ferrels

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The Natami isn't "stuck" with OS3.1/3.9. AROS 68K is being ported to the Natami and new extensions to OS 3.1/3.9 and AROS are being added


As far as AmigaOS is concerned it is stuck with 3.9 at best. And yes I know that open-source OS'es like AROS or even Linux can be ported, those can be ported to any hardware... By the way is it known, which OS it will be shipped with? Will they have some sort of license to ship NatAmi with AmigaOS? How will the machine reach the users? You call NatAmi the successor of the A4000, but you forget that the A4000 was not just a piece of motherboard with custom chips on it, it was a complete system, including the OS to make it usable.

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And the X1000 team will have to do a better job at promoting the X1000.


And why is that? They have stated from the beginning that it's a machine specifically for the Amiga enthusiast market and their plan with it is not to exploit markets outside the Amiga community. In the same way as NatAmi is not aiming to win over the PC/Mac community. Both target a certain segment in the very small Amiga community. There'll probably be a number of people buying both. So I fail to see why the X1000 needs more promoting than NatAmi.


No, it isn't stuck with OS 3.9 at best. They're extending OS 3.9 to take advantage of the new hardware they've developed. And I've aleady mentioned AROS 68K. You're still missing the point of the Natami. It was designed for hobbyists to be a 68K successor to the A4000, so why do you insist on negatively comparing it to complete PPC systems running OS4? The whole point of the Natami was to provide a 68K hobby board for retro users who have dreamed of a successor to the A4000. Go to the Natami site and look at the postings from the development team. All your questions about which OS it will run, ship with, and have ported to it in the future are there. They initially plan to ship the Natami with copies of Amiga Forever so that users have licensed KS ROMs and Workbench. Extensions for the new hardware are to follow and AROS 68K is being ported as well. And this is a hobbyist system. Why would the Natami team, who have stated that this is a hobby board, try to send out a complete system like Commodore did with the A4000. The Natami dev team isn't trying to win anyone over or exploit any markets or any of the other things you're talking about. You keep acting like the Natami team is in some sort of competition. They're just a bunch of hardware enthusiasts who have developed something really interesting for the retro-68K fans out there and you keep talking about markets, communities, and targets. The Natami isn't about any of that. And the X1000 needs a lot more promotion if they hope to have sell more than 40-50 systems. The price/performance ratio is just too out of line. No one in his right mind is going to pay $3000+ USD for 7 year old technology using a discontinued CPU, with no applications software, especially when it doesn't offer me anything that I can't get for a fraction of the price in the PC market. And stop buying all that crap from A-Eon and Hyperion about an Amiga market. It no longer exists.

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