@Rassilon
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@Rassilon

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OS4.1 can do many things that your average consumer would want with much less resources than Windows and Linux, which is why we can get away with old CPUs. But give an average PC user an X1000 and OS4.1 and I am sure they can find many things that they are unable to do due to lack of software and not speed.

OS4 won't make RAW image loading, h264 decoding, webpage loading any faster. I'm talking raw performance. G3 class CPU won't gain more cycles due AmigaOS4. AmigaOS may feel faster due its simple nature, so yes, it's also lack of speed.

Saying that, the X1000 CPU is more than capable if used properly. Trust me, my main computer for now is equipped with PIII and runs cutting edge Linux distribution.

PS. you should post here more often, we need some balance things around here.

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@Rassilon

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Your average consumer PC has a faster CPU than the X1000, but the difference is that Windows and in some cases Linux require a fast CPU to provide the interface that consumers expect due to the ever expanding set of features they provide. Throw a 4 year old CPU at Windows 7 or current linux distros with comparable ram to an Amiga and you will see systems that are painful to use.

Sure, "basic" Windows & Linux installations require far more resources that AmigaOS4 does. However, (excluding special uses, such as embedded devices) nearly everyone requires lot of performance for other things aswell. You know, modern-ish web browser, video playback, modern-ish games...

Which brings me up to the point:
How many REALLY usable (by average person outside Amiga community) programs can you name, that use significantly less resources than similar(*) programs on other platforms?

Don't get me wrong, of course it's great to have these "heavier" programs around (wouldn't consider an OS without good enough browser and video player usable) - the point is, the lightweight alternatives that many often refer to either don't exist, or just aren't comparable to what 99% of people are using.

Also, I don't mean X1000 is too slow - exactly the other way around. It's too "modern". There should be some cheap entry level hardware (something like Efika) with -get this- entry level price. Sure it might not play even modern 640x480 videos, but as long as it would be cheap enough (and possibly even adaptable to laptop design), I would assume quite more users would get one, than with X1000. Also, not needing big tower case for a system that no sane person would run any server on would be nice. Hobbies are always better, whenever they fit small space (ask anyones wife / girlfriend)

(*)f.ex. OS4 mplayer is similar to the linux version, but f.ex. iBrowse isn't similar to Firefox due to important missing features.

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I do realise that the Frieden brothers outside of Hyperion are working on Firefox so they have the right idea.

Weren't they subcontractors of Hyperion to begin with? I remember that being the reason why OS4 code couldn't be handed over to Amiga inc. (as it's not fully owned by Hyperion) - so technically they are "outside" all the time, I guess.

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@Rassilon

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Rassilon wrote: Consumers however do not care about CPU speeds and memory overheads they just want a system that works well and does what they want.

OOOoooooo! What you said! HERESY! Nothing but!

Do what you want on what you want to do it on.

I can't believe anybody said that.


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