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Tuxedo 
How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 11-Oct-2008 17:36:18
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Hi ALL!
I found that links about Troika and Panda...
Anyone from boards developers and/or Hyperion(that's nominated on site), can explain us how much was tue of that?
Really soon we can buy 3(sam,troika and panda) hw to run os4.1 on?

The links are:

http://www.troikang.com/contact.html
http://www.ppcnux.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6413#troika

Anyone knows much of it?

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 11-Oct-2008 17:50:25
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Official Amigaworld.net list of potential hardware candidates for OS4

You can tell by the "edit" dates that all of the updates were done recently.

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 11-Oct-2008 17:52:09
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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 2:42:39
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@Tuxedo

No reason why Troika couldn't buy a bunch of Sam boards and slap a Panda sticker on them..

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 6:01:49
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I would say the Panda project is dead as well as DirOpusMagllen for OS4 as well as the http://www.gurumeditation.se/ website itself.

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 9:00:20
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@AmiKit

I think that so...
But at least Troika web site seems to be updated short time ago...
So atleast Troika "seems" alive...
Althought the high price(about 400£) not seems to me a good price...
On their site seems that Hyperion have already these boards to develop AmigaOS4.1 so curiosity was high...

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 10:10:35
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@Tuxedo

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On their site seems that Hyperion have already these boards to develop AmigaOS4.1 so curiosity was high


What makes you think so?

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 10:33:47
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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
Posted on 12-Oct-2008 10:48:55
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@Rogue

The original quote from this thread (message #4) report that:

"These boards have been sent to Hyperion already for OS4 porting and driver writing."

Now that phrase was cancelled...
Someone edited the post...
Maybe the author was informaed that's not exact infomations?

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Re: How about Troika and Panda?????
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@Tuxedo
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Maybe the author was informaed that's not exact infomations?



Yes, by me. Because it was not correct, Hyperion has not received any Amy'05 or Panda board from Troika. The last thing I would like to see is people shying away from buying a SAM because they think that there is any work going on on a G3 or G4 based board.

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Posted on 12-Oct-2008 13:37:58
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@Rogue

Sorry for bothering...
I dunno that...
SAM remains our REAL thing to count on
All other was VAPOUR...

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@Rogue

The panda project is currently in Hibernation until such time we have the requisite contracts
in place to allow this capable platform to be adapted for OS4.

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Hans-Jörg Frieden. I work for Hyperion but I don't speak for them. Got that?


Uh oh…..caught you speaking for Hyperion again

The Troika team feels some clarification is in order.

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The last thing I would like to see is people shying away from buying a SAM because they think that there is any work going on on a G3 or G4 based board.


Humm, so what is this then? Spec

HJF doesn't speak for our development team at Troika, or have access to our PPC "platform" projects.

We hope that in due course, you will also give the same careful consideration to competitive products from TroikaNG.

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Uh oh…..caught you speaking for Hyperion again


No, I just state the facts. I am not making an announcement or anything like that.

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HJF doesn't speak for our development team at Troika, or have access to our PPC "platform" projects.


I didn't try that, I just stated that the information that we're working with a G3 or G4 board is wrong. I don't know what Troika is working on, I just stated that we don't have a G3 or G4 board from you.

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We hope that in due course, you will also give the same careful consideration to competitive products from TroikaNG.


You know what is required for that, and you know that I am not the person to talk to.

I just wanted to refute any rumor that we have gotten an Amy05 or Panda board from you. I don't know who came up with this information, but it was false, and that is what I set straight. I did not want to imply that you are not working on something, but as long as Hyperion didn't get one, it's not relevant to AmigaOS 4.x.

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Posted on 12-Oct-2008 20:34:36
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I just wanted to refute any rumor that we have gotten an Amy05 or Panda board from you. I don't know who came up with this information, but it was false, and that is what I set straight.


The trip report to Amiwest 2006 from ssolie mentions the following:

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The most important bits were that Hyperion had Panda boards and there would be rework on the design using a professional board design company for the final consumer version on the Panda.


Apparently this info was false.

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Posted on 12-Oct-2008 21:12:49
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@Rogue

"..... any work on G3 or G4 based board" - including Elbox Shark PPC for classic systems ??


Last edited by fibi on 12-Oct-2008 at 09:14 PM.
Last edited by fibi on 12-Oct-2008 at 09:13 PM.

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The most important bits were that Hyperion had Panda boards and there would be rework on the design using a professional board design company for the final consumer version on the Panda.


This is what happens when you send someone else to the show to represent your company.

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Posted on 13-Oct-2008 6:32:17
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@hatschi

I do not know how he got that info, but it isn't correct. Hyperion does not have, and never had, a Panda board.

@Darth_X

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This is what happens when you send someone else to the show to represent your company.


That seems to be your latest pet peeve, but it doesn't have anything to do with it. If there had been anything to announce, Hyperion would have done it. I say again, I don't know how Steven got to think this, there must have been some misunderstanding.

That is all I am going to say about this. I think the statement was quite clear. While I don't speak for Hyperion, as Troika pointed out, I would know if there was anything like that going on, so the fact is that no, there is no work on a Panda board going on period.

I don't think there is any more to add.

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Posted on 13-Oct-2008 8:06:34
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@Troika So do you have any idea when the board could be released?


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@Rogue

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That seems to be your latest pet peeve

Hey, some people like to moan. It's just a pity that some of them have got no-one better to moan about, than those who ARE actually doing something...

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Mod's Note: Please do not flame others. Nor post obvious trolling remarks.

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