Good point actually. There's absolutely no reason why that website should still be down. Content was simple, demand would have been quite low. Lets face it anyone with any web admin experience would get it working in 5 minutes. Anyone with any compooter experience could get it working in half an hour.

There is definetely motivation behind keeping the site down.

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"Speaking of which, the wildest consipracy theory I ever heard was that there is supposedly a "snack bar" for aliens under Washington/Dulles airport..."

No theory...I've been there. There really is a snackbar for aliens underneath.
I personally spoke to several aliens from Canada.

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There's absolutely no reason why that website should still be down.

Well, that's what I tried to say earlier in the thread and then was told to be quiet and accept the explanation at face value. Of course there is some reason other than normal server trouble that the site is still down. Any technical problem could have been solved or worked around or made irrelevant long ago if having the site up was a top priority. For one reason or another, no one is taking the few minutes needed to get the content back up. Since there's no way to know what that reason is, there is no point speculating.

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yawn! just to shut you all up;

the ***official*** swedish mirror is still up and running just fine.
could it possibly be that Hyperion have their rear ends full of other
stuff to do? case closed.

http://safir.amigaos.se/amigaos.php?id=1

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Right, Hyperion's site should just redirect to the official Swedish (as in language) one. Problem solved.

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could it possibly be that Hyperion have their rear ends full of other stuff to do?

No, not really. What does it take, 5 minutes to put up a splash page? 20 minutes to a full restore from backup? (Not many pages involved.) If you don't like to read people's posts on this, fine, but it's just as silly and pointless to suggest a reason that doesn't make sense. If the site is such a low priority (considered not important) that it isn't getting fixed, that in inself says something, don't you think?

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Indeed - a splah page doesnt take long.. and sends out the right message.. it kills topics like these.

@all

[Conspiracy mode]

Could this site content be the point of dispute between Hyperion & Amiga inc?

[/conspiracy mode]


just a thought, and probably not a relevant one.

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Yes, I got to agree with gary_c, it doesn't seem likely that being busy is the only reason for the site not getting fixed. I mean how busy are the Friedens really, they still have time to post here did they not? (Well, at least they did until yesterday.)

I'm not saying there needs to be any conspiracy behind it, I'm just saying that there is likely more to it than just being busy. Of course it can mean just that fixing the site is not trivial, i.e. something went terribly wrong tech-wise. Or that they plan or planned to do some updates at the same time as fixing the site and these are causing more delay...

Or maybe they just can't be bothered to do it? Maybe these things are done on a such a when-I-have-too-much-free-time basis that things like this get dragged behind, maybe. This obviously isn't very encouraging if you think about the state and future of the whole OS project, but in the current Amiga community this wouldn't be any way unheard of or surprising (it would be understandable even). Or maybe Hyperion doesn't want to pay to get the server fixed, money-priorities.

My guess would be that the task of fixing it is not quite trivial (maybe backup tapes really need to be gone through, server reconfigured or something) and hence the Friedens haven't just had enough free time to get it sorted out, because their working hours are used by something else and on their free time they like to do something else like the rest of us.

I would be very disappointed if they outright lied to us about the reason of having the site down, but I'll leave speculating on that to those more imaginative conspiracy theorists. :)

(In any case, I wouldn't be surprised that the site would go up sometime soon just to shut up us who are speculating about it.)

@Swoop

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Swoop wrote: @all [Conspiracy mode] Could this site content be the point of dispute between Hyperion & Amiga inc? [/conspiracy mode] just a thought, and probably not a relevant one.

As far as theories go - it sounds a perfectly plausable one...

I think that it's all just part of a conspiracy to make us all speculate as to what they're up to so that we don't bug them all the time. Judging by this thread, they've been very successful.

Hans

EDIT: Oh, and they have agents in our midst spreading whacky conspiracy theories so that Rogue can come in and say, "What, me do that? Yeah right!"

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Darth_X wrote: @Amigaworld administrators Is there any reason why Hyperion's site can't be hosted by Amigaworld.net?

1. They haven't asked.
2. They might well require a specific set of apache, modules, php, etc..or specific PHP options, for example, that have caused issues in the past.
3. They, or someone, would likely need to so some additional work, to migrate into a chost configuration.
4. The AW server has quite a bit on it currently already, and adding a full CMS (Mambo) would add additional load to the AW server.
5. They might have a specific backup scheme or server configuration they 'require,' which AW wouldn't be able, or possibly willing, to accomodate.
6. It wouldn't be a surprise if 'they' wanted 100%/root access on the system their site is hosted on.

*shrug* There's some off the top of my head, anyways. I don't think Hyperion really needs 'help' in the first place with web hosting, but they could certainly ask if they needed or wanted to..it's possible, although I'm not sure it would be desirable for any real reasons..

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As far as theories go - it sounds a perfectly plausable one...

I'd put my money on it!

I also think that Hyperion dont want (or have been instructed not) to talk about the reasons the site is down.

This would explain why it is made to look like a hosted server problem and not a deliberate removing of content. Of course nearly all server/hosting problems would either result in a 'server not found' or an Apache 'test splash' screen.

Of course we have rumbled their ruse!

I just hope this legal and contractual stuff doesn't hold up OS4 shipping when the hardware is (eventually) ready.

@ALL

You can stop your conspiracy or other strange far-fetched theories allright

It's up again: http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz

And just so you know: It took us so long because we wanted to switch to a different CMS, since the old one failed rather horribly.
And that is REALLY, I repeat REALLY, all there is to it.

And therefore, as Hans-Joerg stated, it is true that it was a mere technical issue, and we really had, and have, other things on our mind.

Please report any issues you may have with it at webmaster@hyperion-entertainment.biz. I'm especially interested in style problems on Amiga-browsers.

Regards,
Evert

@jorit

It won't happen, you know it won't they'll come up with something new.

such is life

btw welcome to Amigaworld, I think

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@jorit
Thanks for the update...I'm glad to see it back online.

What's the CMS being used now?

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Cool!

At last!

I guess my theories were totally wrong then!

@jtsiren

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Or that they plan or planned to do some updates at the same time as fixing the site and these are causing more delay...

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(In any case, I wouldn't be surprised that the site would go up sometime soon just to shut up us who are speculating about it.)

...now, sometimes when you list all possible reasons for something, some seem to stick. :)

@jorit

Looks liker they added a few more icons on some of there pages, or am I wrong?

Any way the site looks grate.

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