@pixie

"Hope to ship OS5 in 2007"

Yeah right.

And OS6 in spring 2008 and OS7 in the fall 2008.

Anyway it's only good to have a LOL now and then.
Helgis

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@Kronos

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if it was true it would be good news, but it would have been even better news back when PPC-Macs were still on sale brand-new.

Indeed, it would be fantastically good news. Mac Mini support means very close to iBook G4 support. Too bad I believe Helgis's "strong feelings" or whatever he calls it shields him from reality so well, I simply cannot take him seriously. I'd really like to though.

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@billt
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billt wrote: @Kronos Quote: if it was true it would be good news, but it would have been even better news back when PPC-Macs were still on sale brand-new. Indeed, it would be fantastically good news. Mac Mini support means very close to iBook G4 support. Too bad I believe Helgis's "strong feelings" or whatever he calls it shields him from reality so well, I simply cannot take him seriously. I'd really like to though.

Well, the thing is, even if you *could* take him serious, would you take any of McEwen's statements serious?

@hatschi

The ability of KMOS to deliver doesn't suprise me...after all, all they do is sit there doing nothing....

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@pixie

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Helgis didn't sign any NDA

Thanks for the laugh there. Who would give an NDA to the guy? I don't know if his enthusiasm would allow him to keep quiet about anything for very long.

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To copyright somethign you actually have to go trough proper channels

For complete protection, yes. But you automatically get some degree of copyright protection at the time of creation even without applying to any government agency, in the USA at least. Your nation may differ. From Wikipedia:



In the United States, copyright has relatively recently been made automatic (in the style of the Berne Convention), which has had the effect of making it appear to be more like a property right. Thus, as with property, a copyright need not be granted or obtained through official registration with any government office. Once an idea has been reduced to tangible form, for example by securing it in a fixed medium (such as a drawing, sheet music, photograph, a videotape or a letter), the copyright holder is entitled to enforce his or her exclusive rights. However, while a copyright need not be officially registered for the copyright owner to begin exercising his exclusive rights, registration of works (where the laws of that jurisdiction provide for registration) does have benefits; it serves as prima facie evidence of a valid copyright and enables the copyright holder to seek statutory damages and attorney's fees (whereas in the USA, for instance, registering after an infringement only enables one to receive actual damages and lost profits).

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@jorkany

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First of all, I don't think that's Helgis.

I'm starting to think you're right. Helgis doesn't seem like the kind of guy to use the word "recon".

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15:23 < Helgis> But yes, there is still much work to be done, i recon..

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@hatschi

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would you take any of McEwen's statements serious?

Considering some of what was in the "20 answers", no, I would not.

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@billt

I see where you're aiming at, but saying something isn't quite comparable to an idea, nor to the idea of having it "secured trough a fixed medium (such as a drawing, sheet music, photograph, a videotape or a letter)", beside I did not took it as mine, and provided references to the information itself... I just 'sold it as is'

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@pixie

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5th- To copyright somethign you actually have to go trough proper channels

In the US, this is not exactly the case. Other countries may vary.

If I write something and claim copyright, then it's copyrighted. Proving later that I am the one and original author of the material if challenged is another thing. Registering your material with the copyright office is good legal protection, but not needed to initiate a copyright. You would have to refer to the TOS of moobunny to find out if it's actually an infringement on their copyright to post clips of their threads.

Posting a link to the Moobunny thread should be completely fine. As well as reprinting text from AW IRC, but I would still would check about the wording of the TOS to be sure everyone understands that what they post on AW and type in the AW IRC is covered in by AW copyright.

AW was in a dispute with the old AmigaWeb Directory for reprinting information from that site with out permission. AWD simply claims copyright on the material presented in their pages and they have it, Just as the AW TOS does.....
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Any other use of materials on this site, including reproduction, modification, distribution, or republication, without prior permission of Amigaworld.net is strictly prohibited.

It's a bit broad actually and I wonder how it applies to user contributed material such as our posts. AW may want to tighten the wording a bit to include U.C.M. Otherwise I might want to say "The above message is copyrighted by ME and cannot be reprinted without my permission". This could restrict my material even if AW wanted to give some one permission to reprint it.

I'm not an "expert" on this stuff, but I have studied it alot as part of other endeavors.


Plaz

@pixie
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PS- please do not forget *not* to blame the messenger

You will of course be shot.

It is an interesting rumour though. I know I'd buy one if it ran OS4 because I'm a hardware slut.

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@PCKiller

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Mods, please delete this message,

Can't do that without deleting all the post after yours too.

Simple edit it yourself.

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@ssolie

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I'm a hardware slut.

Finally! A post I can actually confirm.

Let's not forget that Bill never said he was "against" the idea.
If someone can disprove that, please link me to such a comment or proof.

#6

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Hi ssolie,

Hah, you beat me to it while I was making my reply!

Which is the following:

Hmmmm, since it's YOU that's the messenger, I'd say "shoot first, ask questions later". (Oh, musn't forget the smiley)



This place is spiraling out of control into patheticity (not a word? well, whatever).


You know, I was banned (2 weeks), then sidelined myself for an extra week, and look at what I observe. YAUT (Yet Another Useless Thread). And it was ME accused of disruption, harassment, and intolerance.

Hey, what about this comment from Kronos (the moderator at morphzone who told me not to post ANYTHING ELSE in a thread after my third post (he said I went off topic, it wasn't) then proceeded to delete the next post I made (which definitely was "on topic") and therefore I could see that he was going to delete any and all subsequent posts made by me in that thread, so I didn't bother continuing to post, and there is no evidence of even the deleted post's presence. (There was no post there with my name and an empty comment space for people to see that it was erased.) Hey Kronos, I guess you ARE a god over there. BTW, "Genesi" over there (who is BBRV) did the same, when it was convenient. Just mentioning that, not gloating about it or anything.)

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Kronos wrote: We also know, that McBill would neverever tell the truth, when a lie could work (and also when a lie won't work).

What's the next allowable derison? BillyBoy? Fleeced? Sheeplord??? Are we ANN.Lu (Sorry Christian Kemp, it's not true anymore for your website, can't say the same over here.)


Anyone with beef reply here.

@number6

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number6 wrote: @ssolie Quote: I'm a hardware slut. Finally! A post I can actually confirm.

@Atheist

*sigh*

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@Atheist

Why are you posting idiocy for? Don't try to look like a martyr. I am tilting over the edge ATM, don't push me, I mean it.

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@Atheist

Great first post after a ban:

Please read Amigaworld.net Terms of Service updates (please read)!!!

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@ssolie

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It is an interesting rumour though. I know I'd buy one if it ran OS4 because I'm a hardware slut.

Unfortunately it's really just more of an ebay solution than anything. However, a used Mac Mini would probably be cheaper and more powerful than the alternatives... and it could be used as a Mac.

@Atheist

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This place is spiraling out of control into patheticity (not a word? well, whatever).

No it is not!

Thank you for your time here, so long and take care

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When I hinted
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please do not forget *not* to blame the messenger

I was talking about Helgis...

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