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Poll : Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 - Which will \\\\\\\"win\\\\\\\"?
Sony Playstation 3
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Lou 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
Posted on 5-Jan-2007 17:53:24
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@MikeB

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MikeB wrote:
@Lou

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and your point is what?


There's a major difference in having a majority stake in a company or a minority one. I just pointed this out, it wasn't Nintendo which sold the company like you stated. They sold their remaining stake after Microsoft owned a majority of the company already.


You have no idea what you are talking about!
http://money.cnn.com/2002/09/20/news/deals/rare/index.htm

[Quote]"Nintendo had the ability to continue its exclusive relationship with Rare, but in looking at the company's recent track record, it became clear that its value to the future of Nintendo would be limited," said Peter MacDougall, executive vice president of sales and marketing for Nintendo of America. "In other words, we passed on this opportunity for very good business reasons." [/Quote]

Nintendo had the option to buy Rare but sold it back to the Stampers who sold it to MS. Microsoft never owned Rare while Nintendo did. End of Story.

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Foody 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
Posted on 5-Jan-2007 18:28:56
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@Lou

Isn't rare the company that made donkey kong?

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Anonymous 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
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@Foody

Donkey Kong Country.

Nintendo made Donkey Kong (and that's where that little plumber started too even if he didn't have a name at the time)

 
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MikeB 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
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@Lou

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ou have no idea what you are talking about!


Please, don't talk to me as if I make things up. You could speak in a more polite manner you know?

"In September 2002, the Stamper brothers sold their 51% interest in Rare to Microsoft; following this, Nintendo sold their 49% stake in the company as well. Microsoft paid a total of $377 million for the company."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_(video_game_company)

Future Network:

"Microsoft came along and scooped up Rare for a boggle-worthy $377 million; Nintendo allowed Rare to keep all its own original properties, including games that Rare had been working on for the GameCube. Thirty more employees fled the ship. The Internet collectively wondered how Nintendo could survive without Rare."

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Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
Posted on 5-Jan-2007 19:32:19
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BTW, another PS3 game release on Sony's PSN ($10)

Gripshift
http://www.station.sony.com/ps3downloads/images/gs/screenshots/7.jpg
http://www.station.sony.com/ps3downloads/images/gs/screenshots/12.jpg

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Lou 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
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@MikeB

If you read all the news stories, Nintendo refused to buy out Rare, the Stamper Bros wanted cash (to cash in) and went to MS. Then as part of the deal sold out to MS. Nintendo didn't want Rare and you make is sound like MS forced Nintendo to sell it.

What's rude is your ability to accept fact.

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@MikeB

GripShift is a very nice game. Some hate it because of the controls, but that's because they expect it to be realistic. It's one of the most enjoyable PSP games out there.

 
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BrianK 
Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
Posted on 5-Jan-2007 20:46:30
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@MikeB


Sony Computer Entertainment America confirmed that there would be no supported force feedback technology with its PlayStation 3. They told 1UP the following:
All PS3 games are programmed for the SIXAXIS which doesn't have force feedback, therefore the force feedback in the wheels won't be recognized.

Great! Gran Turismo 5 doesn't matter if you're driving a Ferrari or a Toyota the feel of the wheel is the same; none. BLAH! Looks like the 360 will be the better console for the racing genre. That's sad.

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DonnieA2 
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All you guys talking about Rare..

You should really check out Viva Pinata and Kameo, they are wonderful examples of current games by Rareware..

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MikeB 
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@BrianK

Strange I knew about rumble, but force feedback was said to have been included in the Japanese version of GTHD.

http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/logitech_gt_force_fx_steering_wheel_for_ps3.php

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MikeB 
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@Lou

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you make is sound like MS forced Nintendo to sell it


I don't agree with that perspective.

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What's rude is your ability to accept fact


I accept that your and my opinions and perspectives differ. I also accept that my and your perspectives and opinions don't have to be the one and only absolute truth nor do they have to be complete bogus.

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Re: [Poll] Sony PS3 vs Microsoft XBox 360 - christmas 2007 Which will "win"?
Posted on 6-Jan-2007 2:26:41
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@MikeB

Something else for you to check out. ANA, the video scaler on the Xbox360. This chip does the hardware video scaling of the 360. The lack of a video scaler is the reason Sony is having resolution issues with their games and Blu-Ray output.

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jiyong 
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@BrianK

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You're talking console gaming not PC gaming

Exactly, I don't know where you got the impression that my PS2 is a PC?

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Don't forget there's other 'issues' when you move from 10' to 3'. One is the screen the other is the audio.

What's the issue with the screen? The fact that 1080p does make a visible difference?

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jiyong 
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@DonnieA2

Hmmm, Viva Pinata a wonderful example?
I saw it at The Spot (GameSpot), but it couldn't attract me.
Oh well, perhaps I'm getting too old...

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utri007 
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Posted on 6-Jan-2007 4:55:44
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@jiyong

Just moving amigans.net and amiga.org becauce this poll.

One of the best Yeah

In did ööö nintendo ?

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MikeB 
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Posted on 6-Jan-2007 9:53:54
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@BrianK

Most early PS3 issues are greatly exaggerated and fixable:

1) The Force Feedback rumour you were talking about has spread like a house wifes tale all over the internet. Need for speed Carbon for example does support Force Feedback. Most likely someone misunderstood Rumble vibration for being real force feedback.

2) The PS3 currently has issues with playing about 1.5% of legacy games. Suddenly all news media exaggerate regarding this minor issue. PS3 not being backwards compatible and such.

3) Playing 480i PS2 games on your PS3 may result in some jaggies if played over HDMI, this is a pixel flipping issue. You can already fix this by using a component cable instead and is said to be easily fixable with a firmware update.

Yes, games do not scale on the PS3, the games run best at the resolution(s) they were designed for. IMO Microsoft tries to FUD the PS3 by visiting countless of Journalist offices with Gears of War and Resistance, trying to claim XBox 360 superiority. (Yes Gears of War looks better, but leave those journalists alone with Gears and Resistance for a couple of weeks and they may come to the conclusing Resistance is actually the better game here).

Normally 1080p games will look better than upscaled lower res games not designed with such a resolution in mind. 720P games will look just fine. Sadly seemingly many people who claimed they can't see any differences between genuine native 1080p, 720p or even 1080i output, now all of the sudden think a scaler is some kind of magic component.

The PS3 media coverage so far, has IMO been a lot like house-wifes telling each other stories/rumours, with the story being exaggerated more and more from house-wife to house-wife.

But maybe this should have been expected, I have seen more and more extremism and extreme bias regarding normal news coverages in western media as well, sadly this also seems to reflect on people's overall behaviour IMO.

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Posted on 6-Jan-2007 10:50:25
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I think Microsoft hasn't reached its target figure of 10 million XBox 360 sales for 2006 worldwide


It is rumoured Microsoft will announce it has "sold" around 10.4 million units at the upcoming CES. However it is also believed around 2 million units of this figure weren't actually sold in 2006 to end-user.

But are current shipment data, so we will probably run into virtually the same problems regarding the conflicting data there was with regard to last year where there was a gap of 230,000 units between Microsoft's "sold" data and offical sales data for the North America. This gap seems to be widening though.

Microsoft will likely try to paint a picture of exceeding estimates, while they most likely performed worse than was officially expected. I think Microsoft should change "sold" into "shipped" to avoid further misunderstandings.

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@Trezzer

Crysis for the PC certainly looks fantastic:

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2007/004/reviews/931665_20070105_screen002.jpg
http://www.crymod.com/uploads/mediapool/Crysis_Xmas/crysis_new_frozen_shot3_scar_update.jpg

I think 2007 will be an interesting year for gamers!

I don't expect a PS3 port, as it's meant to show off Microsoft's DirectX 10, if I have to upgrade my PC I probably won't be playing this game though. Personally I don't think XBox 360 games will ever look this good. Crytek please prove me wrong!

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IMO Microsoft tries to FUD the PS3 by visiting countless of Journalist offices with Gears of War and Resistance, trying to claim XBox 360 superiority. (Yes Gears of War looks better, but leave those journalists alone with Gears and Resistance for a couple of weeks and they may come to the conclusing Resistance is actually the better game here).


That's not really an IMO - either you have proof of it or not. I don't like the suggestion that games journalists are being influenced or even bought by publishers, just because you disagree with their conclusions.

Edge gave it a 7, which is ok but not great:

"As a launch title, Resistance proves itself to be a crisp and powerful piece of software, but not quite as robust a videogame; it's not far off how the Ratchet & Clank games would feel if they were deprived of their RPG upgrade systems, plentiful collectibles and compact, colourful worlds. To enjoy it throughout is a tightrope walk that few will fail to stray from, and one that demands you love its guns as much as it does. Which puts us back in the land of the fanboy: approaching a game with preconceived conviction can be a risky business, amplifying the bad or the good as you've already seen fit to judge. With Resistance, a better preparation is a good set of blinkers and a little store of faith."

Games TM only gave it a 6:

"One salient fact remains, however: Resistance: Fall of Man - a PS3 launch title with a thunderous hype machine behind it - is vastly inferior to five-year-old Xbox game. It really speaks volumes, doesn't it?"

Two respected print publications. What are you going to claim about their conclusions?

Chris

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@Trezzer

MikeB wrote:

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The early Japanese version of Motorstorm totally lacks multiplay unlike the finished version. It's based on an early version of the game, just like the demo currently available.


"These new screens reveal night cycle and multiplayer mode with up to 15 players"

http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=39706&mode=thread&order=0

XBox 3650 version???? "Looks like Sony has lost another PS3 Exclusive!!!!!!1"

http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=32189

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