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fairlanefastback 
ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
Posted on 13-Jun-2007 16:31:09
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Granted ACK has said the five developer boards are on hold as per Amiga Delaware's request as far as being delivered to the five entities that would recieve them. But what of the work on the boards themselves? Is it complete in a developer version? Does ACK have the 5 boards? Any photos to share? Any ACK website to be made in the meantime in this lull, perhaps some sort information may be posted?

We only have an ambiguous "When some of the smoke settles, more information will be released". Can what this means be elaborated on, especially since Amiga Delaware did not get their injunction?

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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
Posted on 13-Jun-2007 16:41:37
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I think " When The Smoke Clears " was meaning AI is in control. AI not in control so, NO. This is a fog that may sock us in for the long haul . . .

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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
Posted on 13-Jun-2007 18:53:48
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I updated my ACK timeline a bit.

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Nice portfolio

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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
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@fairlanefastback
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But what of the work on the boards themselves? Is it complete in a developer version?

Developer version?? It's supposed to be complete in a consumer version this summer:
Entry level product ready for Customers Summer 2007

Maybe they decided to just skip the developer pre-release because things are coming along so well.

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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
Posted on 13-Jun-2007 20:09:26
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Let's see now now.......Bill Gates announced Windows just as a competing product,Geoworks,was debuted and shipping;thus effectively killing it. And no Windows version since has been on time or without lots of post-release bug fixes.yet Microsoft is the most successful OS seller.

Bill McEwen and company are just trying to follow the path to success!!?


I wonder if the largest category of computer product isn't vaporware.


Amiga,Inc still yet may succeed in finally destroying the Amiga.

Given the record of who has done more to keep it alive I hope the Hyperion group wins the whole darn IP.

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@fairlanefastback

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Can what this means be elaborated on, especially since Amiga Delaware did not get their injunction?


I think we may end up finding more smoke and mirrors than anything else. Based on the initial ruling, it's unlikely that ACK/Amiga will even have licensing rights to OS4.

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ne_one wrote:
@fairlanefastback

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Can what this means be elaborated on, especially since Amiga Delaware did not get their injunction?


I think we may end up finding more smoke and mirrors than anything else. Based on the initial ruling, it's unlikely that ACK/Amiga will even have licensing rights to OS4.


This brings up an interesting question for Adam. Will he seek a license for OS 4.0 for his planned hardware with Hyperion or is it Amiga Delaware or nothing for him?

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This brings up an interesting question for Adam. Will he seek a license for OS 4.0 for his planned hardware with Hyperion or is it Amiga Delaware or nothing for him?

Must...fight back....urge to...comment....

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Re: ACK developer boards, we are near the one month late time period
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This hoax has gone on for long enough, ack has not and has never had any intentions to release products. This guy is just taking the #### out of you guys and it is about time people stopped giving him the time of day by mentioning his hoaxes.

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Posted on 15-Jun-2007 1:05:15
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I'm curious what you feel his motivation is, since you are absolutely sure (it sounds) that he never even had an intention to release a product. I doubt him very much given the info hatschi has shown but I still am left wondering, Why??

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...since you are absolutely sure (it sounds) that he never even had an intention to release a product....

My impression is glittering has strong opinions but no more information than anyone else around here.

Personally, from reading others' direct dealings with ACK, it seems like Adam is sincere but has basic problems with his business processes. Maybe he's too naive about his capabilities, the size of the tasks, and so on. I have no idea if this is accurate or not, but the repeated pattern of making unfulfilled announcements paints a picture of a guy with dogged determination who hasn't taken to heart the lessons from experience. In any case, isn't it clear by now that people should be extremely skeptical about any announcements or projections by either Amiga, Inc. or ACK?

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Posted on 15-Jun-2007 4:16:47
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In any case, isn't it clear by now that people should be extremely skeptical about any announcements or projections by either Amiga, Inc. or ACK?


Or about any announcement since 1995

You really can't take anything for sure untill it is buyable from a store in Amigaland.

Good observation regarding ACk btw, makes sence to me.

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Posted on 15-Jun-2007 11:42:06
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I'm curious what you feel his motivation is, since you are absolutely sure (it sounds) that he never even had an intention to release a product.


i have no idea what his game is but everything he has done has shown him up to be a hoaxer and a liar (the facts are there), there is no excuses for his actions and people should just stop following his carrot that he dangles in front of them with pride.

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I am sure he just need to finish the manuals.

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...if only, lol.

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the facts are there

Nobody disputes "the facts": the products didn't ship, he didn't show up for the show, etc. The question isn't what buy why. I don't know of any information that proves he's a liar and a hoaxer and not just a guy who isn't realistic about what he can do and can't restrain himself making over-optimistic projections. If you have information that does that, lay it out for us to see. If not, you're just coming to the conclusions you want to despite not having the facts that eliminate other explanations.

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I don't know of any information that proves he's a liar and a hoaxer and not just a guy who isn't realistic about what he can do and can't restrain himself making over-optimistic projections.
How about the instances where he accepted boards for repair and never sent them back?

Personally, I think the guy is delusional and really does believe he's doing the things he announces. You've got to admit that would explain a lot, including why the boards sent for repair were never returned - he may believe he's still "fixing" them. This would also explain his motivations in making the announcements, why no pictures of any of his projects have ever appeared, why he has never shown his projects at any of the shows, etc. He isn't lying or hoaxing from his POV.

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I don't know of any information that proves he's a liar and a hoaxer


Claiming the powervixxen was in production and the manuals was being printed was outright lies which makes him a liar, as for the other stuff he claims. He has not (in years) provided one single piece of proof that these products are real, which just look like a hoax

The guy has been exposed time and time again but still the Amiga community will give that joker another moment in the spotlight, a true hoaxing Amiga legend (beats troika).

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How about the instances where he accepted boards for repair and never sent them back?


Ok that sounds like something that needs a valid answer from Adam.

Doesn't someone claim they sent him 1200 connector samples and never returned them, even pretending to be someone else on the phone when they tried to inquire on getting their property back? That would be another.

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