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KimmoK wrote: Perhaps they've had a heavy pre-christmas celebration? Or upgrading to their new AOS4 POWERed server? http://us.fixstars.com/products/powerstation/

Yes - please! Please! PLEASE!

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The site is up, btw.

Yes, but not the url I believe some people were waiting for:

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga

At least that one is still down on my end.

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Both links show a member login that reports an error when you do try to login.

clint

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This site is down for maintenance. Please check back again soon.

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Exactly. Try to login and if it doesn't work trust the words on the site . They are there for a reason.

( sorry not much news.. but at least its not

..bye..

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All I know, is that I am wondering about that so called court case, not much news I have heard about it? I assume Hyperion won again, and all is safe in the Amiga community?

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yes the wee can take another year in court

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Interesting...

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Well look, to tel you my thoughts here, if Amiga.Inc DH Bill McWen could leave Hyperion alone for the good of the community, it would be great.

McWen Ning Nong really does not need anything from OS4 IMHO, not if they plan on having Amiga OS running ontop of all other OS's out there. We already Have cloanto for that, amithlon, and ofcourse AmiKit.

But we only have One STANDALONE Amiga OS out there that is still being updated, and that has been done by Hyperion.

As for MorphOS, it is not an Amiga system for me. OK, so it can run the same programs, and its own, but the feel of it is just too indifferent for my liking.

Not saying that we may not see future products for Amiga, Morph, Linux and Mac only type platforms, but just commenting on how I feel when I use the Other Os thats considered an Amiga related OS due to it being able to run amiga things.

Man, hate to downgrade any of my communities that are amiga related, but Even AROS is better already than MorphOS IMHO. And soon with a web browser on it, we can have a nice x86 amiga related system beside my fantastical SAM440EP Amiga OS4.1(maybe 4.2 by that time)

Question to the community then:

If I have a kid, who knows limited knowledge in computing, which of these will be the easiest to install, Amiga OS, Morph OS or AROS?

I believe it may well be AROS, then Amiga OS and finally MorphOS, as with Morph OS you have to do some coding, and look up the net for the manual, atleast Amiga OS4.1 comes with the manual in a box, and is a total GUI based install, and can run straight off the cd.

Amiga OS4.1, also came with more to use after the installation completed, whereas MorphOS only gave me a few things.

Like Wise, AROOS is also quiet nice in that sense, and has it pretty nice for a novice user.

AROS, same, run it off the cd, GUI type install, so even for someone new to the Operating System, can install it without needing to know the Amiga type of CODING...................

Cheers.

Conclusion, AROS and AmigaOS4.1 are and wouldbe easier for a newcomer to the ranks IMHO versus MorphOS.

(I tried an experiment with some people, and they all prefered amiga OS for what the install comes with, AROS for simplicity and ease of use, and nothing on the Morph)

BUT, the easiest to setu the internet stuff is Amiga OS, then AROS, then MorphOS, in this order. again IMHO.

As for Amiga Anywhere guy Bill McWen, get stuffed, we have plenty of ontop Emulator type OS's, and the best one IMHO is cloanto in conjunction with AmiKit. Go, Magellan Go!!!!!!

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Gebrochen wrote: Amiga OS4.1, also came with more to use after the installation completed, whereas MorphOS only gave me a few things.

I think MorphOS is pretty comprehensive package, which includes most of the needed programs for the basic use and even little bit more. Even some killer apps like ShowGirls.

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AROS, same, run it off the cd, GUI type install, so even for someone new to the Operating System, can install it without needing to know the Amiga type of CODING...................

WTF?

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BUT, the easiest to setu the internet stuff is Amiga OS, then AROS, then MorphOS, in this order. again IMHO.

In my opinion, MorphOS2 has been the easiest to set up on internet. Network settings are nice and clean in installation as well as later on system setup. OS4 fails in this category compared to it. OS4 has more inconsistent install process and there are some splitted settings in system making some confusion when trying to change network settings later.

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As for Amiga Anywhere guy Bill McWen, get stuffed, we have plenty of ontop Emulator type OS's, and the best one IMHO is cloanto in conjunction with AmiKit. Go, Magellan Go!!!!!!

I just wonder that if you like Magellan how an earth you don't like MorphOS? As MorphOS has cloned all the most important features from Magellan instead of plain Workbench like OS4 has done.

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What do you mean "cloned all the most important features from Magellan"?

Multiple source and destination listers?
Configurable drag and drop with modifiers?
Programmable listers?
Programmable icons/dock/menues?
Grouping of icons on desktop?

to name just a handfull, from the top of my head...

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have you seen morphos 2.x in action? aros is better already than morphos? what a nonsense. morphos is the most advanced amiga-like system up-to-date, next to it very closely is aos4.1 and aros is way-way behind both of them.

"as with Morph OS you have to do some coding, and look up the net for the manual" - ?wtf??? what you need with morphos is to burn the iso, place it in your peg, boot, press some buttons in the install application and lay down for 5-10 mins and there you go. and you've got tons of useful application with morphos 2.x.

ambient (morphos' workbench) is one of the best desktop/file manager (magellan syte) in the world incl. other platforms. its lightyears ahead of wb in os4.1 not to mention aros' wanderer for example.

internet setting is only one click for dhcp (to turn off the unused eth port).

so what the hell are you talking about?
please dont tell bs and be informed before state something. i guess you think morphos is still = 1.4.x. well, its not.

or are you another blind name follower who doesnt give a damn about the truth?:D

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@kolla

i havent used magellan before therefore i dont know it really.
but i do know ambient.

Multiple source and destination listers? - sure. with icon or (very advanced) list view.

Configurable drag and drop with modifiers? - sure.

Programmable listers?- sort of.

Programmable icons/dock/menues? - theres panel for docks, you can use custom menus in ambient, you can use appicons, softlinks, bookmarks

Grouping of icons on desktop? - sure, with panels or by hand:)

one feature i miss from ambient is the built-in ftp (i know that magellan has it) and copy in background feature (the source dir is busy while copying, the dest. is not, but you can always open the source as a new "lister")

@$adddam

You guys should debate which amiga-type OS is the best. its not pointless at all, and is a good use of time.

@kolla

From the basics: the opus-like listers itself! With inline editing and wildcard renaming, user customizing, context menus, content information, selection filters etc.

Very useful device list, which can be opened for example with double clicking on desktop.

incredible powerful filetype system similar to Magellan's. You're at home with Ambient's mimetype settings. There you can configure drag&drop, double click and context menu actions. Some features have even improved from Magellan, like inheriting actions and ability to open files from shell according to filetypes.

Archive browsing like on Magellan.

Those came in my mind quickly when I'm not home to be able see everything ;)

Not all features have been cloned (at least yet), but I think that those biggest basic features which make ground for all it are the most important ones for the usability. More special additions can be made later as Ambient is improving all the time.

And some slightly off-topic: you can still use good old Magellan on MorphOS also, if you miss some features from it. There's pretty nice ways to integrate it to MorphOS and then you can for example open original dopus-listers instead of Ambient listers when doubleclicking on desktop, you can use startmenus, button banks etc on Ambient screen, use Magellan's hotkeys etc etc. I personally use Magellan to extend MorphOS features in that way, although there isn't that much need for it anymore with latest MorphOS:es. And of course there's always an option to replace whole Ambient with Magellan, if you want to :P

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Grouping of icons on desktop? - sure, with panels or by hand:)

It means that you can define to which areas app icons, disk icons etc appear automatically when new one pops up. You can for example have several areas for drive icons and when first gets full, new icons will appear on second etc. You can give them priorities etc. I don't think Ambient has it yet. i personally don't use much icons on Magellan or MorphOS, so it's been pretty useless for me (I don't have single icon on my Amiga ;). But pretty handy for some I guess.

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one feature i miss from ambient is the built-in ftp (i know that magellan has it) and copy in background feature (the source dir is busy while copying, the dest. is not, but you can always open the source as a new "lister")

That's why I still have Magellan integrated in my MorphOS setup :) It's just the best ftp-client...

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Very useful device list, which can be opened for example with double clicking on desktop.

By right clicking on AmigaOS4.1 workbench, you get popup menu
select "Workbech" -> "Open volume" -> "volume to open"

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double click and context menu actions.

AmigaOS4.x has commodity you can put in wbstartup,
this will enable context menu.

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open files from shell according to filetypes.

AmigaOS4.x does whit whit WBRun command:
C:WBRun "filename"

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That's why I still have Magellan integrated in my MorphOS setup :) It's just the best ftp-client...

ftpfs does that

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