@paolone

stop feeding the troll (Leo).

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

@Panthro

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where is the option that sasys cause I hate X86 & would prefer alternatives!!

I am not the original poster, however I can imagine that

1. it was too dumb and childish to be considered

2. it was pointless since AROS is available also on SAM and Efika, which are PPC platforms

Last edited by paolone on 30-Mar-2009 at 12:46 PM.

@paolone

I gave up on replying anything to Leo, since he never ever says anything positive about any subject here, anyway. So should you..

Some people are just always unhappy with anything, and if not, they actively search out for stuff that fit that bill. I guess Amiga and related content is a paradise for people like that.

I prefer concentrating on the creative side of things.

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Sorry, but your comments on GUI consistency are rather ridiculous. You don't seem to catch the difference between the GUI of the operating sytstem and a (badly written) decoration theme made by a user. Is just as odd as saying "that girl is ugly" because her purple hello-kitty t-shirt doesn't match so well with her military-style green trousers. You just demonstrated that a third-party theme doesn't match so well with AROS GUI elements: and now?

Now ? What about a true themable system ? The GUI needs to be consistent...

I wouldn't compare a girl with an OS btw...

Anyway, I guess that's desperate...

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Couldn't resist..

Last edited by _Steve_ on 31-Mar-2009 at 01:02 PM.

Wooo!

Posting from OWB on Icaros installed on a crappy old 733MHz PC I threw together out of old parts a couple of hours ago.

Installation was interesting. It was a simple process, but the installer hung repeatedly. I think this may have had something to do with the graphics drivers, strangely enough, because things seem to be working a lot better under the "emergency gfx" mode.

This is really cool!

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@Gleng

Emergency mode use a different (older) kernel, which may be more compatible to your hardware. Please try this with your current installation: when loading, highlight a graphic mode in grub list, press E, replace "ATA=32bit" with "ATA=nopci" or "ATA=nodma" and press Ctrl+X (if I'm not wrong) to continue booting. You'd probably find a way to make Icaros perform better in disk operations.

Last edited by paolone on 31-Mar-2009 at 08:16 AM.

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couldn't resist..

The computer I am working on doesn't have Photoshop installed... If I was to design an OS I would surely take the time to do it properly.

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@Leo:

The beauty of open source projects is, you can take part of the process and improve stuff you feel not being well thought out and executed well enough, instead of just nitpicking and doing nothing, or crying out like a baby to its Mama how bad all of Amiga OSes are.

The trolling you do on Amiga OS doesn't apply here, because in this case, you have to direct the accusations directly at yourself. On AROS, there is no one responsible except yourself for the OS taking a direction you like (within certain set boundaries).


So you don't like the way the Decoration app is set up?

Learn coding if you can't already, and there you go..Improve it yourself... or do something else to contribute to get an OS that you envision to be the best for you.


But my experience with you is that you are just here on AW.net for trolling anyway, so my words are probably spoken in vain...


Would love to be proven wrong though..

peace out,
Mike

Yes Leo do something about it.
No one is stopping you!

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hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie

What I do not understand with Aros flamers is that as it is a rewite of Amiga OS 3.1 on x86 (about 90% complete). What more evidence do we all need to say that it is the x86 Amiga that everyone can contribute too.

Amiga inc have done nothing useful, except licensing Hyperion and are an embarassment. However we now have a system in Aros that we can either modify ourself or pay or convince others to modify for us through friendship or bounties. Sounds like the best of all worlds to me with Amiga look and feel.

Just to set my flag in the ground the real Amiga ended with Commodore closing, the rest is just window dressing as there was nothing ground breaking. Be honest, how many ground breaking show stealing non ported apps were developed for OS4 specifically.

Therefore Aros is my platform for Amiga OS and it is already an Amiga x86. Why not all work together and get the Amiga back up in the world instead of bickering.

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@paolone

Problem there obviously is that Intuition theme does not visually match with MUI/Zune theme. Theming should not be limited to window borders only but also system gadgets. Without that it looks inconsistent like it is now. Leo is damn right there.

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@itix

Actually you can pretty much alter the whole aspect (although limited in parts), of course it's not a very easy thing to do because it's a Zune+Decoration combination.

But actually you can get the whole GUI feeling more coherent and I give you examples:

(All images can be clicked to show the full sized version)










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And how about no Decoration at all?!...

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So anyone complaining about AROS GUI not being Amiga like or wrong, should take a look at themselves and whine later.

[Edit: fixed image sizes. Please try not inlining images that are 1280x1024, and just post img links to a thumbnail version - _Steve_]

Last edited by _Steve_ on 31-Mar-2009 at 01:01 PM.

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@itix & Leo:

You should direct your complains at me, and not at AROS.

If I wanted this to look perfect (or more exactly, If I had the time to do so), I could have done something about it.

Wow great screen grabs and Aros is getting even better than this.

The future on Aros is accelerating rapidly towards us as more users join us and developers get more inspired. Welcome to the future.

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@hardwired

Whow, that was more themes than I imagined was available.
For sure all those are not in the Icaros distro, but how about a website or something
that could teach AROS users more about themes and a place to download some?

I for sure would like to know more about themes and how to fiddle with them.

Last edited by Manu on 31-Mar-2009 at 11:00 AM.

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hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie

@Leo

As usual you are complaining (and nitpicking) about small steps ones that really care (read not you) are doing, be it on AROS, AOS4 or even MOS, to bring each of those platforms further.
I read on someone's blog this quote from Lao Tseu :
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« Mieux vaut allumer des petites lumières que de se plaindre de l'obscurité »

In english it could translate into Quote:

"It's better to switch on small lights rather than complaining about darkness"

Now guess whose blog it was...

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Now dreaming AOS 4.2...
Thank you to all devs involved for this great job !

FWIW

Icaros + E-UAE + Amikit + AmigaForever = (edit) no more windows or linux hosting

Icaros + E-UAE + Amigasys + AmigaForever = (edit) no more windows or linux hosting

(edit) AROS has Amiga style programming.

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@Trekiej

Thanks for that, it is tru and they run faster on Aros than on Windows. Just wait to see if we get the Kickstart replacement project running, then E-UAE will run at almost native speed.

THe future with Aros and the Amiga is VERY bright.

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@clusteruk
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Just wait to see if we get the Kickstart replacement project running, then E-UAE will run at almost native speed.

Don't think this will be the case, the idea behind Kickstart replacement is to free the kickstart roms from Amiga name! The intention is to be able to boot classic amigas from the Kickstart replacement roms. (something like that!)

EDIT- regarding the quality of the themes... its as much todo with the quality of the artists as it is the qulaity of AROS, here is my shot at it. (wallpaper by Infiniton )



also has alot to do with taste

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