@sundown

775Gb FFS!

I read that as 775Mb because 775Gb is totally insane, and there no seperate sys and work setup. No wonder Timberwolf runds extra slow, it will be making writes to disk and the filesystem will be crawling along. Imaginge how many millions of years it will take to revaldate of it gets corrupted!

In fact it's not impossible that is what is happpening anyway, it could be crawlign along as the disk validates.

@djnick

You going to have to completely redo this.

But in the mean time you *could* try the fs_plugin_cache command.

run

fs_cache_plugin DEVICE=HD0: CACHESIZE=65536

and see if that start to improve things

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@broadblues

Nope! Look again.

It's Seven hundred ninty three thousand, nine hundred sixty eight point seven zero three MBytes. Or, over 700 Gig.

WOW! Time for a total Redo.

djnick, spend some time developing a plan for your HD, then do it. What you have there
is nothing but trouble.

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With all your trouble, you must be the biggest Amiga pechvogel in the world, pal.

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@Signal

I suggest you put in another HD, 500Gb to !TB, partition it like this:

Boot: 1 MB, FFS
DH0: 1 to 4 GB, Workbench, SFS
DH1: 100Gb, Work, SFS
DH2: 1 to 4 GB, Web, SFS
DH3: 50-100 GB, Downloads, SFS
DH4: 100MB, Cache, SFS (for web browser cacvhes, icon caches etc.)
DH5: 100Gb, Data, SFS

1500 buffers for every sfs partition

Boot: only has one file on it, amigaboot.of.

Keep the rest of the drive unpartitioned so you have empty space to recover another partition to if you get any SFS errors.

Workbench and web I'd keep below 4gb for easy backup to a DVD. Once you have set up Workbench with the latest RadeonHD drivers, configured it how you want, added software you can't live without etc. use AmiDVD to burn a bootable copy (make sure you also have amigaboot.of in the workbench root).

You could do all that in the same space as the existing FFS partition but it depends whats on there, whether you want to keep any of it etc.


I'm not surprised you're having problems with a FFS partition that size, You can tell vox is a windows user and probably never read the drive setup recommendations before wading in and changing the default setup.

To check if your drive is validating either open the disk icon information or type info in a shell window, either will tell you the partition status.

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Yes CFE requires either an FFS, FAT or ISO formatted device to load amigaboot.of from, it knows nothing about SFS.

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Nope! Look again. It's Seven hundred ninty three thousand, nine hundred sixty eight point seven zero three MBytes. Or, over 700 Gig.

I did look a gain, that was my point , lol, that I did a complete double take because the number was so insane I didn't believe it at first glance.

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@djnick

P.S.

The best place to put Linux is on a seperate HD or CF card. The PATA connector works just fine
for Linux.

That way if you ever want to wipe either HD clean and start over the other OS will still be there.

AND..... it follows the KISS principle.

@broadblues

I hear you.

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he have odyssey open , probably it is tacking that cpu resources.

My X1000 idles at 1 to 2% with Odyssey open.. his is idling at 20%.

@djnick

If this machine belongs to Vox, you should probably keep the original hard drive just like it is.
You can swap in a drive of your own and get everything running as you like it.

That way, you can restore the original setup if you ever return the machine to Vox.

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@djnick

What's with all the dhx devices? Assuming you didn't blot out DH1 to DH5 as that would be sensitive information.

That doesn't look good even if none can mount. BTW I don't see an OS4 SWAP volume there. IIRC it must be named SWAP, with SWAP type and 4096 blocksize.

How much space does "SYS" contain? If you have space add another Workbench volume and back it up. My A1 still has main WB on FFS but all other volumes are SFS and one JXFS.

@broadblues

I type fs_cache_plugin DEVICE=HD0: CACHESIZE=65536 in Shell / cli -
i got Unknown Command error text... ?

I've spoken with Vox - yes he agrees that having one large partition is bad decision so he agrees that it slow downs everything.

My question will be:

Will it be possible to add partition or split current 790GB Amiga partition with HD Tool Box so for example - I leave HD Tool Box on HD0: to split on 4GB 1st partition [with Sys:] and then another one to be lets say - 60GB [Work] and 3rd partition to be the rest [700GB]?

If this will work I can easily copy all files/system from SYS: to freshly created Work: and then format SYS: & copy back all files from Work: to Sys:?

This will solve all problems I suppose :)

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Also I forgot to write that my internet on Amiga is insaneously SLOW. I think it goes 10kb/sec [a bit faster than 56k modem!] and it happens only when PC is turned on [even NOTHING is happening there]. Currently my PC is validating disk [in DOS] while Amiga somehow thinks PC is using internet and gives me 1/1000 of the speed. Btw I have 10mbps download and 1mbps upload. :(

When PC is turned OFF - internet starts to work SLOOOW and then [after a few minutes] starts to work NORMAL [fast].

You see how many many many problems I have with Amigas... Seems I really have no luck at all :(

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@djnick

[quote]Will it be possible to add partition or split current 790GB Amiga partition with HD Tool Box so for example - I leave HD Tool Box on HD0: to split on 4GB 1st partition [with Sys:] and then another one to be lets say - 60GB [Work] and 3rd partition to be the rest [700GB]?

The content of partition will be trashed while re-partitioning!!!!!

You will need to put workbench on a backup media, even "RAM DISK" will do, if you don't have too too many mb of stuff.

Before you start take, backup, reassign libs to your libs backup.

1. Take backup.
2. Reassign LIBS to your backup LIBS, so programs can be loaded while workbench is being formatted etc.

Assign Libs: Backup:Libs
Assign C: Backup:C

3. Re-partition HD.
You will be asked to reboot, what ever you do, do not reboot.
4. dismount volumes.

Assign Dismount DH0:

5. mount volumes (use mounter tool from your workbench backup.)
6. format volumes.
7. Copy amigaboot.of to BDH0:
(must be a FFS volume, and most be first partition)
8. Copy Workbench to DH0:
(Most be bootable, and have kickstart modules, partition should be SFS2.)
9. Reboot.

this should work, cross your fingers, this is not safe.

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@broadblues

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broadblues wrote: @sundown 775Gb FFS!

Isn't max partition size with FFS 127GB?

Does MediaToolBox not give some warning in the case where the user tries to create a partition larger than the maximum supported by the filesystem?

If not, perhaps it should be reported as a bug/feature request.

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@djnick

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I type fs_cache_plugin DEVICE=HD0: CACHESIZE=65536 in Shell / cli - i got Unknown Command error text... ?

Ooops it's fs_plugin_cache sorry

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I've spoken with Vox - yes he agrees that having one large partition is bad decision so he agrees that it slow downs everything. My question will be: Will it be possible to add partition or split current 790GB Amiga partition with HD Tool Box so for example - I leave HD Tool Box on HD0: to split on 4GB 1st partition [with Sys:] and then another one to be lets say - 60GB [Work] and 3rd partition to be the rest [700GB]?

You can split the partition but you *will lose all contant*

So I would split a smallsection of that large FAT32 into a temporary system partition and format woth FFS



then do a

COPY CLONE ALL COPYLINKS SYS: tempartition:

Then hopefully you will be able to boot from that

Once you have determned that you can then split sys into smaller workbench: and work: (or however you prefer to name them)

It's recomended to make very small boot partition formatted as ffs for the amigaboot.conf if I've read the above comments correctly.

Then copy any third party stuff to work: or workbench: as required.

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If this will work I can easily copy all files/system from SYS: to freshly created Work: and then format SYS: & copy back all files from Work: to Sys:? This will solve all problems I suppose :)

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@Boot_WB

I think it varies with sector size, bigger the sector bigger the max partition size.

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@broadblues

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It's recommended to make very small boot partition formatted as ffs for the amigaboot.conf if I've read the above comments correctly.

Not “amigaboot.conf” its “amigaboot.of”, I guess of is short for openfirmware, maybe the same bootloader used on pegasus systems?

If he does not make a CFE boot partition, then he most have workbench on FFS\07, and FFS\07 is really slow, and that was what he was trying to avoid right.

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@djnick

I suggest you use the swap partition, (depending on how much of that 770GB sys: is used.

Go into MTB and select the swap partition, use the menus to sase as mountlist, then choose mountlist. This will give you a file called devs:mountlist which contains all the information for recreating the partition when you've finished.

then change it to sfs and dismount, mount, format, copy stuff to it and go from there.

why swap? because there's nothing there that can't be wiped out.

it the last fat partition is empty use that instead.

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FileSystem...............FastFilesystem
DosType..................DOS\03 --> 444f5303
Max. Filename Length.....30 characters
Max. Partition Size.......2 TB to 128 TB
Bootable?.................Yes
Maximum file Size.........4 GB 2 Bytes
Supported Block Size......512 to 32768

Comments:
Legacy file system, not recommended for AmigaOS 4.1 due to lack of long filename
support. Can be used for boot-loader partition in AmigaOS 4.1 only setup.

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sundown wrote: @Boot_WB FileSystem...............FastFilesystem DosType..................DOS\03 --> 444f5303 Max. Filename Length.....30 characters Max. Partition Size.......2 TB to 128 TB Bootable?.................Yes Maximum file Size.........4 GB 2 Bytes Supported Block Size......512 to 32768 Comments: Legacy file system, not recommended for AmigaOS 4.1 due to lack of long filename support. Can be used for boot-loader partition in AmigaOS 4.1 only setup.

Why is the "Max. Partition Size" shown as 2TB to 128TB?

Seems any Max Size Partition should be a fixed number, not a range of 126TB in size and it also does not make sense to have a minimum partition size of 2TB and a maximum partition size of 128TB.

I guess it does not matter much, since it is recommended to only use FFS for the boot file, and to use SFS or some other file system for the rest of the partitions.

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