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Samwel
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High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 12:07:45
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| Hello All!
Is there anyone out there that have the internal beta with DMA enabled? I contacted Titan Software once again to plead for an AmigaOS4 version of Papyrus, and also BurnIt 3.0. What's up with Mr Garlich answers? Is he totally blue or what?
My only real trouble with his answers is the one concerning the high CPU usage (45-56%) with DMA enabled.. So what's up is the damn thing broken or what?
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 12:41:49
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| A little OT: Is there actually a good way to (i.e. tool to use to) measure the CPU usage in OS4? |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 13:07:21
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| @AmiDog
Sure, have a look here : http://os4depot.net/index.php?function=browse&cat=utility/docky said to be a cpu meter and clock to fit in the amidock toolbar but I never tried it myself. Lio |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 13:18:21
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| @Samwel
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Only Aos4 works on Aone, no Linux
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Funny. I wonder what kind of OS I run (along OS4) when I turn my machine on. It has a Penguin and all that, but it mustn't be Linux because mr.Garlich can't be wrong, of course.
The only point he made with such email is that his words are filled with hate and spreading false claims. |
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Anonymous
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 13:31:22
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Sorry, but Mr.Titan knows nothing about latest status of OS4, status of UDMA driver and how *well* it progressed since the prerelease.
I am a OS4 beta tester. Like other beta-testers I don't have the permission for giving out information, but I am sure Hyperion and OS4 developers will give you the right answers to these false claims when the time comes..
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 13:55:39
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| @Amigart
It is a worry that quite a few ppl recon the arctica chip is no good and buggy is this correct or not? |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 14:11:10
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| Quote:
Amigart wrote:
Sorry, but Mr.Titan knows nothing about latest status of OS4, status of UDMA driver and how *well* it progressed since the prerelease. |
I doubt he'll be selling many copies of 68k Papyrus around here now |
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poweramiga2002
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 14:19:05
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| @Rebel
I get the feeling he is a MOS person and likes to bag the A1 ( the real amiga)
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ikir
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 14:29:09
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| @poweramiga2002
Hyperion or other OS4 developers should contact Titan with the last UDMA benchmark.
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 14:30:30
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| @Samwel I think you should make a bet. If the OS4 development team does pull off acceptable UDMA performance than all current A1 owners get a free copy (OS4 native of course) of his software and all upgrades for life. If they don't we'll all buy MorphOS and become enlightened. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 14:46:14
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| @Samwel
That guy can go scratch his arse. Even if all what he said is true, the way he wrote it was crass and unprofessional. This is certainly no way to conduct Technical or Sales Support in response to customers, particularly potenital new ones . I thought his software was looking very promising and I would have purchased it. He will not see a penny from me ever now no matter whether he ports to OS4 or not even if it means I have to use MS Office products for the forseeable future. |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 15:38:45
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| @Samwel
Tell me, did you request Michael Garlich authorisation before posting pulically private emails from him ?
I wouldn't appreciate your manners if I were him...
Concerning the state of the current "Amiga" Market (Causes and consequences) Michael is right... believe it or not.... and remember only truth hurts...
Concerning linux on A1, Michael was talking about a linux kernel with working DMA... (remember the MD5 test...) Of course linux works fine on A1 using PIO modes...
@Mikey_C read the remember again.. Your sense of humor must be worked again and again...
I am glad you found my moderation of your post funny, I hope you continue laughing whilst your account is locked for 1 day. Mikey C - Here's something else for you to Remember, don't edit any moderation again or next time your account will be locked for far longer |
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 16:44:49
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| @AV
Don't worry, what goes around, comes around.
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 16:58:31
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| @AV
AmigaOne Linux hasn't been updated since the dark ages. The "Amiga insistance" that everyone can run a 2-year old Linux distribution with zero manufacturer support is laughable.
Every company that ships hardware intended or even capable of supporting Linux as a serious option for users contributes HUGELY to the kernel and distributions. Genesi has a man in the Debian team and we're very friendly with the Gentoo guys - but that's not because of nefarious means or plans, just because we worked to build a relationship!
If someone fixed up AmigaOne Linux, ported drivers to 2.6.x and Mai's custom kernel additions (possibly, if they are able to be published?) then they'd find their way into both distributions, and more, quite quickly.
So the question is.. why isn't anyone doing it?
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 17:04:10
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| Sheesh! welcome to Morphworld. Can someone please tell me when this happened? One minute this was an Amiga website.....
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 17:04:24
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| I would recommend to remove the quoted mail until the original poster confirms that he has the permission to post it on a public bulleting board.
And let's not start a witch hunt here, okay? Not developing for OS4 (for whatever reasons, I doubt that Mr. Garlich revealed the real issue in this mail) is not a federal crime.
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 17:13:22
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| maybe email was written by cheesegrate ?
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 17:24:15
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| @cgutjahr
>I would recommend to remove the quoted mail until the original poster confirms that he has the >permission to post it on a public bulleting board.
Most jurisdictions allow reposting of e-mails.
Netiquette might be a different story but then again it doesn't seem like mister Garlich is in any position to lecture about that. _________________
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cgutjahr
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 18:25:22
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| @Hyperionmp
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Netiquette might be a different story but then again it doesn't seem like mister Garlich is in any position to lecture about that.
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Yeah, and this is proven by ripping some private statement out of context and publishing it on a website? Interesting concept...
I wouldn't want to see the kind of reply MorphOS users recieve when asking you privately for a MOS version of Real3D
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Re: High CPU usage with DMA enabled? Posted on 30-Jul-2004 18:34:12
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| @cgutjahr
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And let's not start a witch hunt here, okay? Not developing for OS4 (for whatever reasons, I doubt that Mr. Garlich revealed the real issue in this mail) is not a federal crime. |
Slandering competition is, in my book. If someone can't say something friendly, he should just say nothing at all.
I'm not upset about his unwillingness to produce OS4 software (I won't produce MorphOS software either) but I don't reply to customer queries that the Pegasos is an utterly broken piece of hardware, that bPlan/Genesi destroyed the Amiga market or any such slandering. A simple "We have no plans to produce an OS 4 version of Papyrus" would have been sufficient.
It just goes to show character._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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