Hi to all
I have BOCHS since more than one year and don't know really well how to setup
BOCHS to run on my system.I have a copy of Windows 98 and wanna try this great
emulator on my A1.
What are the basic tricks or steps to setup and seriously run BOCHS on the Amiga One?
Is there anybody with the minimal knowlegde I don't have to setup and
put it right BOCHS on the Amiga One?
I am really dying to see a modern PC on my Amiga One.
Help is appreciated

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@newlight
I really need help.
Is anybody out there?

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@newlight

Hi there,

You're not the only one, I have Boch and DosBox and would like to get Win 95 running.

I have the .exe files for Win 95.

BTW did you ever get it working.

I have always been interested in emulation on all machines.

I have Amiga Forever installed on my laptop,and UAE4All on my GP2X.

All help (preferaby a step by step guide) accepted.

Thanks

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Darth_X wrote: How about getting PearPC to run OS4 on standard PCs?

This answer to the question of the thread is as idiot as is I ask for what time is it and you answer: " i do not drink"

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This answer to the question of the thread is as idiot as is I ask for what time is it and you answer: " i do not drink"

Actually, i was having a beer when I posted, so..

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Darth_X wrote: Quote: This answer to the question of the thread is as idiot as is I ask for what time is it and you answer: " i do not drink" Actually, i was having a beer when I posted, so..

Well, i posted drinking Whisky with Cola hey!!! it´s friday

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@Fransexy

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Well, i posted drinking Whisky with Cola. hey!!! it's friday.

OK guys, I'm joining you with a nice cooled bottle of pinot blanc

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@newlight

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I am really dying to see a modern PC on my Amiga One.

Oh, sorry. But you said eariler you had Windows 98. You will need XP to see a modern PC on your A1 minimum.

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Help is appreciated

Well there is a BochsGUI on Aminet but you have to Ignore DSI as it crashes and then complains you don't have stuff. And you would still need to edit stuff.

Is there a guide included? I got it going but forget how. You will need to make sure the VGA works and configure some drives. You can also edit this in bochs. Also check the default config file as it has all the options you need to set.

For a CDROM drive you input the device like so:
sii0680ide.device 2

Have you ever edited a UAE config for OS4? Then you'd do fine.

@Hypex

I gave up on Boch and tried DOSBox.

I managed to get DOSBox working with just a few tweaks of the config file and downloaded a few DOS games to see if it would work.

Guess what, it worked, I'd like to get Windows 95 working if possible.

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@1Mouse

Sorry but I don't have any idea on how to run it.Maybe with a little patience I could read the readme file or guide if it has.

I don't remember to read this post since ages.The notice of new post on my PC laptop Windows client take me by surprise but is good to see interest in BOCH and emulation like I have I.

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AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

I didnt know Bochs existed for OS4 !
Is it any good ? What speed does it run ?

What is the difference between Bochs and Dosbox ?

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@Hypex
Yes I edited the UAE configuration for OS4 but I think it was not well edited at all because the drives I configured for a Workbench 3.1 desktop emulation didn't work at all.So a friedly user from AW.net (this site) sent me the files and ROMS via PM and in the past I had a good WB3.1 with AMISYS 4 inside my own OS4 systemf I remember well,but I deleted it recently to made my own workbench emulation inside OS4 as I said before to use uaeconfig utility.

But the system ran flaky and unstable as it seems to run sadly my Amiga One.

But anyway I support you for your effort to help me because I don't know too much without the help of the users on forums like you are doing.

And out of topic,my Amiga One is unstable but I installed recently a Zalman cooling fan so the CPU thermal temperature runs behind the middle 64-85 degrees it run before.
Can anybody help me?

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AMIGA 1300 030/50 Mhz/32 MB WB 3.9 with lots of games&demos
AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

@Metalheart

Of course BOCHS exists on OS4! It's avaliable on OS4depot.

The matter is that I really don't know if it runs fast.

You can try if you have a fast machine like the Amiga One but don't expect miracles because
some folks on this forums tell me it runs pretty slow so it must be slow.

But give it a try and maybe you can run Windows software on your AmigaOne!

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CD32 unexpanded
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AMIGA 1300 030/50 Mhz/32 MB WB 3.9 with lots of games&demos
AMIGA ONE XE G3 PPC 800 Mhz/1 GB RAM/RADEON 9250 128 MB/SATA CONTROLLER

@newlight

The last time I ran Bochs on a PC was several years ago, and back then it was too slow to run Windows 95/98 to be of any real use. DosBox was much more useful to me for getting old DOS games working on my system.

With the past few years, developments to Bochs may have made it more useful also with the added speed of todays PCs at least, but for an A1 version, I wouldn't expect it to perform much better than the PC one I used (which was run on a P4 3.8GHz machine at the time with 2GB (PC-6400) ram and a Radeon 1800XT).

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@Metalheart

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I didnt know Bochs existed for OS4 !

For about three years now. OS4Depot is your friend.

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Is it any good ? What speed does it run ?

I don't know how it compares to PC-Task but it can be a dog to configure! Speed? Assumed slow. I checked the code, and it makes no use of register keywords. which I find surprising because who would realistically run it on a PC? It emulates a PC, so why not stick register data in actual registers? Perhaps the performance isn't that better with registers but writing an emulator using full C is better for looking at the source code than being practical. These things need optimising as a minimum if no ASM at all is going tot be in-lined.

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What is the difference between Bochs and Dosbox ?

Well, DOSBox is made to emulate an old PC with EGA graphics and an old SoundBlaster. As well as others. It''s made for old games. Again, why does a PC need to emulate itself? And why would someone put effort into creating an emulator to run old games? I mean really, there is an interest here? People spend money on 3d hardware so it sits idle?

I can see the novelty value and being able to run old software. But to it only makes sense on non-x86. Otherwise it's like running UAE on a real Amiga. It's emulating a CPU of the same kind, must blitz on x86.

Bochs, OTOH, is full blown PC emulator. It can emulate up to a 64-bit CPU! Being that huge might possibly slow it down. In theory it can run XP or even Vista. That is, the same way an 060 could run Windows 95. Do able, but your probably not gonna like it.

@Hypex

Bochs tries to emulate a PC's entire hardware, much like UAE tries to emulate an Amiga at the hardware level. That's why it's so slow. You haven't seen the 'register' keyword because modern compilers are very aggressive about putting as much as possible into registers, so that keyword is a bit redundant nowadays. From a technical point of view, it takes more CPU and memory at compile time to make efficient use of registers (if you're curious, the idea is to avoid register spills), so older compilers would rely on the guy who wrote the source code to tell them what to put in registers, using the 'register' keyword. Modern computers have MHz and MB to spare, so they do the calculations themselves.

Why would someone with a modern PC run bochs? Simple answer: 16 bit programs won't run on a 64 bit x86 OS - the CPU doesn't have a mode that can accomodate 16, 32 and 64 bit opcodes co-existing at the same time. So you run Bochs to run your old 16 bit games

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