@kgrach

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before you berate me list the unique functionality of Dopus something that the plain old work bench can't do.

We won't berate you, we pity you for missing out on the fun stuff:

1. file filters (delete all files called "(kgrach|clueless).jpg" on your data: partition with a single button click)
2. browse through archives as if it were directories, use most of the functionality of DOpus on files within archives (view them, copy them to destination dir...)
3. set up a batch process for any CLI based conversion tool within 30 seconds (create new button/menu item, make it invoke the CLI tool, activate the "do all files" option)
4. batch renaming
5. set up a single "Edit" button or menu item, that loads the selected file into a text editor, paint program, word processor or sample editor - depending on the filetype
6. drag-selecting (hold down mouse button and move pointer up/down)
7. select files that match certain filename, date, protection bits or comment patterns
8. create (default) icons for files with a single click of a button
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I say ditch the trash... ANYTHING IS BETTER... As a file lister Dopus fails misserably... that states on how pathetically usseless dopus is... all hell can break out using Dopus... why do I need this garbage... should of been buried long ago with 1.3...

Thank god you're not a drama queen

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You know that many problems are because the OS 4.1 is beta

i don't agree with that. I'm a Sam/OS4.1 owner too and of course i experience many craxhes too with old games/apps. But I'm afraid i have little hope that this could be fixed one day. The Sam440 features a PPC proc which is very different from cyberstorm/blizzard procs and G3/G4 procs. A lot of things will definately never work on Sam, unless the apps are rewritten, which won't happen.

you have to learn to live without these games and stuff IMHO.

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@AmiKit

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I was also VERY disappointed by the number of crashes when trying to run PPC games.

You are trying games that were written for WarpOS on a 603/604 PowerPC on a BookE processor.

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The dealers should warn people if something doesn't work on A1/SAM.

I am sorry, but these games where never advertised as SAM compatible, as a matter of fact, they where not even advertised as "AmigaOS 4.x" compatible. If I ever get the time for it I might do an update for Shogo, but that is a big If.

However, as I pointed out, these games were written at a time when the 440 did not even exist, and it is a different architecture; on top of that, to get these games to run decently, we had to pull all sort of tricks. Bottom line, I am surprised you got anything to work at all.

Dealers should not advertise these games as AmigaOS 4.x compatible in the first place.

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@Rogue

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Quote: The dealers should warn people if something doesn't work on A1/SAM. I am sorry, but these games where never advertised as SAM compatible, as a matter of fact, they where not even advertised as "AmigaOS 4.x" compatible.

Was any software ever advertised being OS4 compatible?

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Dealers should not advertise these games as AmigaOS 4.x compatible in the first place.

Some ex-Amiga dealer.

(Yes indeed, I always bookmark interesting comments...)

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@Rogue

I buy it if you do,
(soon my list of registered software is full-)

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@Hypex

>He has followed the tips.

Well I have only played the DEMO of Shogo on my AmigaONE.

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@itix

yes but they did not say what games where going to run or that will run on Sam440ep.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

Same here. Demo works fine on my A1 for a while until I get sick of dying after five minutes!

@itix

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Was any software ever advertised being OS4 compatible?

About as much as MorphOS I think.

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(Yes indeed, I always bookmark interesting comments...)

Last time I checked, Eyetech developed the hardware and Hyperion did the software. It doesn't change the facts, though, that dealers should not advertise something as AmigaOS 4 compatible when they know it isn't.

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Is it possible to run wipeout 2097 under OS4.x?

@Tomas

Maybe not. You can run it in MorphOS though, by applying a patch from Aminet. You don't have music btw. Maybe the same applies for AmigaOS 4.x.

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@Rogue

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Quote: Was any software ever advertised being OS4 compatible? About as much as MorphOS I think.

I mean, how can any software claim it is forward compatible with future versions of the operating system?

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@itix

I don't think software ever does... And that goes for PC and Mac software too! Software that lists Windows 2000 as a requirement can and does break under Vista, yet it doesn't say it's not compatible...

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@Tomas

Yes Wipeout 2097 works under OS4. I even saw it running on a Sam and it ran nicely on an LCD @ 1440x900.

But it does something stupid when you quit it and killed my FFS partition once. The audio is also corrupted on the sound effects on my A1. Don't know if that's me or it.

@Hypex

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Hypex wrote: @Tomas Yes Wipeout 2097 works under OS4. I even saw it running on a Sam and it ran nicely on an LCD @ 1440x900. But it does something stupid when you quit it and killed my FFS partition once. The audio is also corrupted on the sound effects on my A1. Don't know if that's me or it.

It runs on A1, yes (because i saw it on youtube ) and on AOS4.0classic (because i used to play it on my old A4000) but on Sam440ep it does NOT work. I tried everything to get it work because i really like this game and have not yet finished it completely. So if you know a secret trick how to get wipeout2097 running on Sam&AOS4.1, then pleeeaasse let me know

nexus

P.S. You can start Wipeout2097 on Sam440ep&AOS4.1, but it will freeze within the first round of a racing (or even earlier if you hit the stick of your usb-joystick/pad. With keyboard/mouse only you perhapse manage a complete round).

P.P.S. Except for the crash, wipeout2097 is unbelievable fast & smooth on Sam

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Last edited by nexus on 05-Dec-2008 at 11:32 AM.

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@ZeroG

Sorry yes, the latest WarpOSEmu was installed.

@kgrach

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as a rabid DOPUS hater. I say ditch the trash.

Are you serious?!?

I am a DOpus5 hater. Always confuses me.

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ANYTHING IS BETTER.

AmiDisk?

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As a file lister Dopus fails misserably. heck windows explorer does a better job that states on how pathetically usseless dopus is.

Windows! Now that is an Amiga insult! Isn't Window Explorer pretty much an extended web browser for your files? I can almost do the same in IBrowse looking at my directories.

What about the Windows version DOpus? Once said to be invaluable to Windows users who were once Amiga users.

Perhaps it was missing Windows Replacement Mode(TM).

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When I ask people why they use dopus I find out they use for features that are already built into the OS. They never learned what the new Amiga OS's can do and are stuck in 1.3 land and Dopus.

I have used DOpus since the 1.3 days, when it was black interfaced, and came with my Phoenix Microtechnologies sampler. Written by Jon Potter IIRC. I loved it.

But, even today, the OS4 Workbench doesn't yet replace it. For instance if I disable a DOSDriver I just need to have the Devs on the left and move it to the Storage on the right, after setting the dirs. On WB I have to open all these windows to drag one from the other.

What if files don't have icons? WB cannot satisfy that as DOpus can. Sometimes icons can confuse it.

The Shell. That, alongside DOpus and my OS4 WB is part of my whole file management. But just having WB and shell would make it hard for me.

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There is nothing Dopus does that can't be done with the OS and dpending on the version with the OS all hell can break out using Dopus.

What kinds?

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Even now with the latest version a large partition and large file directory will trash Dopus and your directory JOY!!

I've got both, and DOpus has always kicked WB for speed.

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Most people who use dopus know nothing about the OS otherwise they would ask why do I need this garbage.

Got any tips for WB file management?

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Its a relec of the past and should of been buried long ago with 1.3

I wish more !.3 machines had it! And the first thing I look for even on a OS3 machine is DOpus! I'm sorry but I just find it so useful.

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Just my two cents but before you berate me list the unique functionality of Dopus something that the plain old work bench can't do.

It's just the way it has the twin directories. Is fast at listings all the files in there. Can go into archives. Set protection bits. View files including hex dumps. Edit files. Show pictures and sounds. Use patterns. Be customised with user buttons. Able to run user scripts. Just my 2 cents worth as well. So how can I get my OS4 Workbench to do all of the above easily?

Wait, you don't use DiskMaster do you?

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@nexus

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So if you know a secret trick how to get wipeout2097 running on Sam&AOS4.1, then pleeeaasse let me know

Really. Well IIRC I ran the startup window. Selected the screenmode. Turn on AHI and turned off CD audio and intro.

I didin't stay to watch so it may have played up when my back was turned. It was fine the minute or so I watched.

@nexus

I got a sam, and I will test this for you. As wipeoutworks fine here, but i have yet to manage to complete a level. At the same time, I must admit, it hasnt crashed yet, and that was after 30 minutes of gameplay, with running out of time coz i am not too good with this game it seems.

None the less, what I would like to get working fleuently is shogo.

Got heaps of other games working though, and helped my friend to get hs shogo working on his amiga better than my newly hardwared amiga.

Anyway, will check it our and post back.

cheers.

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