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sananaman 
Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 22:12:59
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Last saturday I got myself a Mac Mini and installed MOS 2.4. Wrote an install review the same day.

It looks all nice and pretty complete for an AmigaOS. But I'm most amaze about the speed of the whole system. It feels a lot faaaster than AmigaOS 4.1 on a 800MHz uA1. The machine boots after HW initialisation in 4 seconds (desktop ready). The OS is sooo responsive. It feels like the fastest PC I've ever had because of it responsiveness.

I've also tried to run some classic Apps like ADPro (Art Department Professional) this one really burns the rubber... It's amazingly faast loading and viewing images in an eye blink.

I still have to test a lot more things like audio and video apps... but it is very promising...

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wajdy 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 22:17:21
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@sananaman

Could you please show us a youtube video showing boot time and internet browsing speed?

Thanks

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tomazkid 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 22:35:11
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@sananaman

The boot time sounds fast indeed (OSX takes like forever in comparison ) , but regarding the "faaaster than OS 4.1 on an µA1", bear in mind that the mac mini has both Altivec and a few hundred Mhz extra.

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Kronos 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 22:59:25
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@tomazkid

Well I guess that whats the Mini-port is for ....

Mind you, I don't think Altivec really gets used in bootup, actually I doubt CPU really matters that much at all.

Boot-Up times is determined by the (seek)speed of the boot-device and layout of the boot-proccess as in:

- run only whats needed in bootup
- make sure non of the code blocks the bootup while waiting for something to happen
- make sure code run in bootup doesn't interfere, read 2 proccesses trying to access the HD at the same time can be waaaaaaay slower than running them after eachother.

The "big" OSes (Win,OSX,Nix) all violate atleast one if not all of these rules and thats why booting them can take so long, dunno where OS4 falls here, but recent discussions about long boot time in OS4 over a network issue showed that there is indeed room for improvement.

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Gleng 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:01:47
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Yeah! I was really surprised at how fast it boots, it's about the same as my A1200.

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amije 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:03:48
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my mini needs 7 sec to boot in morphos after i select the mos boot disk.

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Crumb 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:06:45
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@sananaman

Mine is fast too. I was surprised with HD speed because even thought it's a 2.5" HD I get speeds around 45MB/sec copying to ram.

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Kronos 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:09:37
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@Kronos

Just to make sure, I counterchecked with my Efika:

34 secs from powerup
27 secs from reset
15 secs from OF

And thats with a CPU somewhat weaker then the ones used in the A1s and an IDE-interface that also isn't amongst the fastest of the world.

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acefnq 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:21:28
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@sananaman

Yes I am quite impressed with MOS on Mini but I don't want to start comparison wars, enough to say it is fast and nice. Is there any way of soft reseting MOS on mini, my usual key combination does a hard reset.

It is a pity the macos early boot system takes so long to load as indeed the MOS boot flies.

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fairlanefastback 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:27:10
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@all

Can all of you guys saying its fast identify to us what processor speed, RAM size, and VRAM amount each of you has?

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Jose 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:31:37
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Does ImageFX run ok ?

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Gleng 
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Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:33:52
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@fairlanefastback

Mine's 1.33GHz, 512MB, 32MB VRAM.

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sundown 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 21-Oct-2009 23:45:12
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The Mac Mini at Amiwest was a 1.5GHz model with 64MB of video memory. it booted in about 9 secs, very fast.

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rzookol 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 22-Oct-2009 0:01:36
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@Jose

imagefx has special version with powerup plugins with fixes for newer Amiga-like Oses (Lite version). ImageFX Lite for AmigaOS4.x can be downloaded from os4depot and runs without problems on Morphos

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Daff 
Re: Amazed about the speed (MorphOS Mini)
Posted on 22-Oct-2009 4:19:26
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@Jose :

No, ImageFX isn't ok, it's faaaasssstt !

@sundown :

Do you have tried to enter this in the firmware :

setenv skip-netboot? true

It will desactive de wait for the netboot and you could gain some seconds for the boot.

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sundown 
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Posted on 22-Oct-2009 5:45:19
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@Daff

Wasn't my system & it only had the demo mos version installed, but it was good enough to get an idea what it was like. I'm sure if it was optimised, it would boot faster, still, 9 secs is impressive.

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PulsatingQuasar 
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Posted on 22-Oct-2009 6:00:47
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I have installed MorphOS on my Mac Mini last weekend and it indeed boots very fast. I have the 1.5 GHz model. I created a dual boot setup. The boot menu that shows when you press the Alt key is not very fast. It waits for about 30 seconds before I can select MorphOS and boot.

I still have to try a butt load of things. I will atleast install Quake 1, 2 and 3 on it.

Last edited by PulsatingQuasar on 22-Oct-2009 at 06:09 AM.

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