@cheesegrate

The only thing I'll cry over is the fact that you are allowed here, because you bring nothing good to the table called aw.net. look at your signature, you're even proud of it.

People like you ruin this place, and has been doing so for a long time now.

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@Hondo

Since you pointed out my sig. Hans or the other one said i am a great contribution to the community. You should show some respect.

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@cheesegrate

Although I do agree with you a lot I do wonder why you post here so much when you are anti os4? I know its amigaworld but its more of an os4 fanboy site..

@Mechanic

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Mechanic wrote: @Franko When in Rome do as the Romans do. If the darn Romans don't point out what is acceptable,,,, how the hell are you supposed to know? When a soldier shoves a blade up yer bum? "There, that will teach you not to blow your nose in public." Oh gee,

The Romans (big bunch of fearties) never got to tell us Scots what to do...

Why do you think they built Hadrian's Wall and the mighty Roman Empire never got any further than the English/Scottish border...

There's an old Scottish saying that goes "Where ere ye be let yer wind gang free", follow that wee bit of thinking and apply it to everyday life and you won't go far wrong...

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@realize

Far be it for me to tell you what to think or say, but being that Im also a user of these forums I think its quite reasonable to point out your crusade against Franko is doing you no favors, and by now youre starting to look like the aggressor. Im sure there's exceptions, but it's really startng to look one sided by now. Franko appears to have moved on, but you still appear to go out of your way to have a go at any opportunity (or create opportunities if there's non available).

I couldnt give a flying fig what your problems are with each other, and have no interest in pointing blame, but sheesh guy, let it go please. Im definately not the only person it's irritating.

@realize

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Although I do agree with you a lot I do wonder why you post here so much when you are anti os4?

Maybe because he's amused of coming here and badmouth anything the AOS camp try to build...pure and simple fun!

I call it troll behavior

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While there's aspects of Amigaworld.net I enjoy, I must admit it has become a sites I dont use nearly as often as I once did for the sole reason it's become pretty much the site to go to if youre interested in mudslinging

The problem is that the people running AW.net decided that mudslinging is a good thing (or at least not particularly bad), and thus allow it to continue. This of course attracts people who like to sling mud, and so the site degenerates towards the minimal level of standards acceptable by those who run it.

Efforts by users to help the site "improve" are doomed to failure (and I say this with some experience), because those efforts are NOT appreciated by those who run the site, since they already see no problem. And the worst thing a user can do is try to act like a mod (which they can't since they lack mod powers).

If you don't like the site (and obviously I'm no-longer a fan myself) then probably best to go somewhere else. (EDIT: Deleted comment which was aimed at the wrong person.)

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@Mechanic

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It should have been on x86, open sourced, and sold for free. The X1000 is just too ultra expensive. Only rich people who don't have to work and save will buy them. The CPU is no longer made and the supply is as good as gone. They will only sell 50 or maybe 100 X1000 if their lucky. We all should use AROS because it's FREE. I can run AmigaOS on a used Mac faster and better, it's called MorphOS. AROS runs on everything and would be the new Amiga os if it was not for all the haters around here. SMP will never work. My OS already has 3D. The only thing Xena/Xorro did was increase the cost with no benefit. The price/performance ratio shows it's not worth the extreme cost.....

While I understand what youre saying (even if it's clearly one sided to a point of being biased(do you really think OS4.x is void of trouble makers?)) , and dont completely disagree, a lot of these sorts of things stem from the simple fact that there's truth to them. I know some people use all these and a few other things to start trouble or put down other peoples choices, but for others some of these things are genuine concerns and/or points. I for examlpe am interested in OS4.x, but some of the above is very true to me. However trying to discuss these things or voice my disappointment/discontent will usually result in one person or another claiming that because Im not willing to swallow a bitter pill Im a non-amigan and/or a pc lover, or a bunch of other equally stupid suggestions. I suspect more than half the people that bring these sorts of points up are treated the same way (as though theyve just confessed to decapitating someones puppy).

OS4.x being the official successor is both a curse and a benefit. Because the user base here have thier roots in amiga, OS4.x will be most heavily scrutinised. Personally Id like to get an OS4.x machine again one day, but some of those heavily used criticisms are genuie concerns .

So yes, while OS4.x does cop more flack than any of the other options it'd also be nice if the usual OS4.x suspects werent defensive to a point of aggression sometimes when a person tries to talk about genuine issues with the platform. Not evreyone who has concerns with a hobby are out to cause trouble, a lot are simply interested.

@Hondo

No names mentioned but as an example you can get 15 abuse reports and still be free to post.

This is true even if you have been banned before, I wonder what it takes to get a permanent ban.

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@fishy_fis
It is not what others concerns are. It is that they appear in
"Every thread, in every forum."

It is just plain rude, and obnoxious. I have a MSI motherboard that will not
run AROS. Should I point that out every chance I get in some rude way every
time AROS is mentioned. After all, it is the truth.

Or maybe I should post things like...
If AROS does not work on your computer just keep buying computers until you
find one it does work on.

Of course I would reword it and sneak it in subtly. Just a little jab to let
people know what the truth is. Well, at least my truth, over and over, and over.

NO! I don't approve of bashing, and I don't post stuff like that. However, Im
learning that is what is done in Amigaworld (and Scotland ) The norm.

Here is another truth.
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@Hondo wrote: @cheesegrate People like you ruin this place, and have been doing so for a long time now.

How often must that be posted before 'I ' believe it finally sinks in?

As I have stated before, this is not my website. I helped pay the rent, but
never again, not until the big hole in the floor is fixed.

@Troels

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you can get 15 abuse reports and still be free to post.

Yeah and achieving this within approximately 100 posts makes it even more impressive!

Someone at admins quarter are sleeping

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@cheesegrate

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cheesegrate wrote: @Hondo Since you pointed out my sig. Hans or the other one said i am a great contribution to the community. You should show some respect.

could you point me where one of the Brothers, wrote you so?

I remember the thing was a little bit different. (apology in advance if i recall it wrong)

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@Mechanic

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It is just plain rude, and obnoxious. I have a MSI motherboard that will not run AROS. Should I point that out every chance I get in some rude way every time AROS is mentioned. After all, it is the truth.

Actually it would be good if you mentioned the motherboard model you have. Also mentioning what error/problems you have.

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@Mechanic

Sure, that's all quite reasonable, and I wasnt really trying to argue any points with you, rather just continuing along the line of discussion you bought up.

Unfortunately it's tricky. Ridiculous that it's gotten that way, but it is. The infighting has become so ingrained into the community that even innocuous comments get misconstrued and defensive attack mechanisms automatically go up. On top of a small vocal minority who seem to get a kick out of stirring things up this can make it tricky to have genuine discussions about pros/cons/problems/advantages/whatever about any platform. There's always someone close by to either be offended or instigate trouble.

@fishy_fis

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fishy_fis wrote: @Mechanic "that even innocuous comments get misconstrued and defensive attack mechanisms automatically go up."

I had noticed that amongst ALL of the Amiga community especially with the way I say things, almost everything seems to get taken as an attack by someone when I post...

Only thing I can say is, if you take the way I speak as an attack then gawd help you if you ever come to Scotland for a holiday, you'd either be crying your eyes out and heading home on the next flight out or laughing your head off and taking it for the banter that it is...

Strange world... stranger people...

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I am so staying out of these discussions!

- Honestly sometimes I feel like Amigaworld is one big Groundhog day.
- sheesh!

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@terminills

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terminills wrote: @Mechanic Quote: It is just plain rude, and obnoxious. I have a MSI motherboard that will not run AROS. Should I point that out every chance I get in some rude way every time AROS is mentioned. After all, it is the truth. Actually it would be good if you mentioned the motherboard model you have. Also mentioning what error/problems you have.

I did all that on the AROS site. To discuss it in this thread would be off topic,,,,,at least to me.

@fishy_fis
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Unfortunately it's tricky. Ridiculous that it's gotten that way, but it is. The infighting has become so ingrained into the community that even innocuous comments get misconstrued and defensive attack mechanisms automatically go up. On top of a small vocal minority who seem to get a kick out of stirring things up this can make it tricky to have genuine discussions about pros/cons/problems/advantages/whatever about any platform. There's always someone close by to either be offended or instigate trouble.

I don't believe it is infighting. Those involved with only one system more than likely could care only
in passing about the others.
Should they cheer on the developers? Yes.
Celebrate accomplishments? Yes.
Come here and pee on others that may not yet have something, or not need it? ............???

Ack! Too much talk. Past time for action.

Oh! almost forgot,
@cheesegrate
People like you ruin this place, and have been doing so for a long time now.

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@Mechanic

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I once mentioned that AROS was 'not my cup of tea'. BOOM! BANG! All of a sudden I was a hater, a basher, the lowest form of life in the world. Well, screw that. No more AROS support from this slob.

I agree with your post but maybe you should practice what you preach!

This week you accused me of "Amiga bashing" when I did nothing of the sort. You accused me of spreading "AROS rhetoric" through the site when I hadn't mentioned AROS once in that thread, nor was AROS anything to do with the topic.

In other words, you brought the camp wars to that thread for no reason. So get down off your high horse and spare us all your hypocrisy.

Chris

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Come to think about it.........may I am the whole problem around here.