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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 7:28:28
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| I had a quick look and i see that it is based on nvidia, so maybe if ati could do the same then AOS4 could jump in as a home-computer again? Would that be possible?
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 8:05:49
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you're right.
The amiga world consists only of wrong decisions. Nearly every new trend and new technology was never been considered by people who "love" the amiga. Much thanks for such a "love". Amiga users are most often older people who do not have the innovative energy or ideas to do such thing like a ...startup... because it's a new world. Amiga is done by people from the old world. Last edited by hunk on 11-Aug-2012 at 08:06 AM.
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 8:35:13
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Oh really, then explain my Raspberry Pi project on Aros, and Pascal's Arm developments with Aros these are great projects for the future. Also my next interest is in VR using Oculus Risk glasses which will lead onto augmented reality. Right now, Aros could do something here with our 3d engine, although the optics correction code may not be open sourced which will be a major problem.
All Amiga IP owners have NEVER really got to grips with what Amiga was and is, and that continues today. Leave it to the third parties as usual, however, I will say that in the old days the developers knew but the bosses did not listen.
Lead from the top has always been my belief, show people what is possible and inspire them.
Even now Amiga could still make a splash, but heh, I am an optimist.
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 10:12:10
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| Is it too late for there to be a kickstarter for NatAmi and the like? _________________ "I love peacenicks, they're so easy to conquer." --Ivan J Ironfist, the Dictator |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 10:34:38
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Regarding Natami there was not and I do not think that Thomas Hirsch would like one during development because it would create "pressure" on him. So I think no. |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 10:36:57
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+1
There are a lot of developments in the Aros-World. Everyone can have a idea, take nightly builds and source and realize it and a lot of new developments are there and coming. |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 13:00:06
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No OS4 for sure. Its ARM CPU and there is no nVidia support for OS4. MorphOS might have some chances.
AROS is already ported to ARM and supports nVIDIA. Last edited by vox on 11-Aug-2012 at 01:00 PM.
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 13:01:30
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Is it too late for there to be a kickstarter for NatAmi and the like? |
Team needs to finish its job first._________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 13:57:32
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Before ouya, i was thinking in a Raspery pi type of board enclosed in A600 like replica case and with AROS in rom but the ability to boot other operating system via SD cards. Then like the original Amiga you can boot to a minimal Worbench/wanderer only typing loadWB like command, run games boting directly of the SD or run a full AROS or other operating system with the SD card or HD. I think that i would have started a kickstarted proyect with that idea before
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 18:14:28
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Why would ARM be better? So far PPC SoC has more MIPS + PCIe. |
Really? Which one would that be?
Tegra 3 is a quad core and includes an Nvidia GPU. It's probably around $20 Which PPC SoC will give you that level of performance at that price?
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So why are *all* of the main PPC chip vendors switching to ARM?
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If people are lunatic enough to buy silly ARM devices for geeky purposes |
Apparently quite a few are given the number of cheap ARM boards now on the market.
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I see no reason why not MIPS or PPC as well. |
If you want to build a console you need parts that are appropriate for the console market. It turns out phone parts do the exact job required and being made in vast quantities are available and cheap.
You could do it with something else like a networking or embedded chip as they have in X1000 and Sam but you end up paying for bits you don't use and have to pay more for parts that aren't included (i.e. GPU).
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 19:29:04
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:02:56
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Aros != Amiga |
Nowadays nothing == Amiga except 20 year old hardware with 68k processors. Anything newer is only partly Amiga. For example an AmigaOne != Amiga because it requires Picasso96 compatibility. MorphOS != Amiga for similar reasons regarding CyberGraphX. At least AROS 68k can run on real Amiga 68k hardware. |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:09:47
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:12:31
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Not true AmigaOS4.1 run classic hardware that have only AGA. You need a PowerPC processor that’s all. |
If you consider the PPC dongle then yes. |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:17:15
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:34:31
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:43:07
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Amiga is brand that was used to sell hardware compatible whit Workbench/AmigaOS 1.x/2.x/3.x Until AmigaOS3.5 the desktop was called workbench, and roms where called kickstart. Picasso96 was included in AmigaOS3.5 and AmigaOS3.9.
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:47:09
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Before ouya, i was thinking in a Raspery pi type of board enclosed in A600 like replica case and with AROS in rom but the ability to boot other operating system via SD cards. Then like the original Amiga you can boot to a minimal Worbench/wanderer only typing loadWB like command, run games boting directly of the SD or run a full AROS or other operating system with the SD card or HD. I think that i would have started a kickstarted proyect with that idea before |
Nice idea, PI can fit Daddys X500_________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:48:53
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Not true AmigaOS4.1 run classic hardware that have only AGA. You need a PowerPC processor that’s all. |
Amiga OS 4.0 / 4.1 Classic have AGA hardware, but its snail slow. It runs on Classics with PPC cards, no matter is it A1200,A3000 and A4000. It would run on any AGA Miggy (CD32?) if it had PPC card and any Amiga if it had PPC and GFX card (e.g. A2000)
But it needs 64 or 128MB FAST that is serious limitLast edited by vox on 11-Aug-2012 at 08:49 PM.
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Re: OUYA Posted on 11-Aug-2012 20:50:49
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Nowadays nothing == Amiga except 20 year old hardware with 68k processors. Anything newer is only partly Amiga. For example an AmigaOne != Amiga because it requires Picasso96 compatibility. MorphOS != Amiga for similar reasons regarding CyberGraphX. At least AROS 68k can run on real Amiga 68k hardware. |
That is backport. We could do the same with MOS and OS4 if we wanted easy emulation box in UAE. Everything that is decent continuation of AmigaOS 3.x is Amiga.
Natami and Minimig are no less boards then AmigaOne or PPC Macs and Pegs._________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way! |
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