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Seiya 
Re: Emulation: A passion
Posted on 15-May-2014 17:12:14
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The thread was what emulation/emulator you prefere to use and now it's benchmark and how is maverllous Linux on X1000..

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@Seiya

Christian like kvm emulation on x1000 and people who dont have an x1000 like me are curious to know some info about :)

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@Seiya

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The thread was what emulation/emulator you prefere to use and now it's benchmark and how is maverllous Linux on X1000..


QEMU is emulator!

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@pavlor

right words :P

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

Nbench results:

Lubuntu 14.04 LTS PowerPC guest on QEMU with "PR" KVM enabled on my A1-X1000:

MEMORY INDEX: 5.090
INTEGER INDEX: 8.353
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 9.790

Lubuntu 14.04 LTS PowerPC nativ on my A1-X1000:

MEMORY INDEX: 7.769
INTEGER INDEX: 9.249
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 10.027

Lubuntu 14.04 LTS PowerPC nativ on my Sam440ep Flex:

MEMORY INDEX: 3.101
INTEGER INDEX: 5.201
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 3.469

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@xeno74

Thank you Xeno :)
Can you make a guest an X86 emulation without kvm ? i m curious :P :P

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

Do you mean a x86 guest on my A1-X1000? I think, it's too slow.

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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yes xeno , i know but dont think on a i7 it is better without kvm :)

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

Quote:
Can you make a guest an X86 emulation without kvm ? i m curious :P :P


It is cca 1/40 of native speed on Core i5 of my brother (QEMU x86 quest on x86 host, no accelleration/virtualisation). I think it could be similar also in PowerPC-x86 scenario.

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

Debian Squeeze i386 guest on QEMU without KVM on my A1-X1000:

MEMORY INDEX: 0.926
INTEGER INDEX: 1.141
FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 0.124

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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Not bed the x1000 is near my Quad G5 result 15% less really not bed for a 1800mhz core

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@xeno74

Quote:
INTEGER INDEX: 1.141


What is baseline? Pentium 90 MHz or AMD K6 233 MHz?

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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AMD K6 233 MHz for sure, the nbench write the AMD K6 233 MHz comparison at the end of it benching , and result write by Christian is that.

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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I'd like to see what the status of the SGI Indy driver for MESS is. Now that'd be some fun right there!

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

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AMD K6 233 MHz for sure, the nbench write the AMD K6 233 MHz comparison at the end of it benching , and result write by Christian is that.


I don´t think QEMU is able to emulate alien architecture (x86 to PowerPC in this case) with 1:8 ratio. That would be too good to be true. I bet result of i386 has P90 as baseline.

What about some other benchmark (eg. DHRY2OD from this package - note it is for DOS, but there are also Dhrystone versions for Linux)?

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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I don´t think QEMU is able to emulate alien architecture (x86 to PowerPC in this case) with 1:8 ratio. That would be too good to be true. I bet result of i386 has P90 as baseline.

What about some other benchmark (eg. DHRY2OD from this package - note it is for DOS, but there are also Dhrystone versions for Linux)?



In what sense ? :)

 photo tlosm_zps95ea115c.jpg[quote]




This is the Qemu on MacOsX 10.5.8 result and run only on one of the quadri core. the Lubuntu ppc64 version is more faster




Vpc 7.02 is 10 time more faster compared qemu and isnt really optimized compared

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Re: Emulation: A passion
Posted on 17-May-2014 9:21:59
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@tlosm

I don´t think PA6T 1.8 GHz in X1000 is nearly as fast as 970MP 2.5 GHz in your Mac. What reult gives "native" bytemark?

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@pavlor

"i dont understand" can you better explain :P:P

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Re: Emulation: A passion
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@tlosm

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"i dont understand" can you better explain :P:P


With 1:8 ratio, Core i5 based computer of my brother would be able to emulate X1000 CPU performance.

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Re: Emulation: A passion
Posted on 17-May-2014 10:58:21
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@pavlor

good for x1000 :)
Note i wrote before Xeno is using Qemu on linux and is much better compared Qemu on macos x 10.5.8 there run on 64 bit.
Soon i will reinstall lubuntu on my quad and will make new bench and shots
for now this are the performance of the buggy VirtualPc 7.02 on G5 (it use only on of the quadri core) it is not optimized for g5 but can made understand the performance of this cpu

Dry2 bench
 photo dri2_zps65124868.jpg

Dry 1

 photo dri1_zps5c4ab338.jpg

mmx
 photo mmx_zps54949269.jpg

Sysinfo
 photo norton_zps6d446ac9.jpg

Quake 800x600 software rendering
 photo q3_zps3fffc36c.jpg

Quake 640x480 software rendering
 photo q2_zps12135f52.jpg

Quake 320x200 software rendering
 photo q1_zpse10cfe29.jpg

Last edited by tlosm on 17-May-2014 at 10:59 AM.

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