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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 13:21:53
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Doubt it would even be worth the time since Sonnet only had 30 working cards 2-3 years ago. The rest were missing parts and untested.
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Re: warpos compatible driver for sonnet ppc accelerator in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 13:43:41
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if it runs via pci. would it not in theory work iff u put it in an amiga one. iff amiga os one day gets smp.. would it not be posible to put an ppc acc card in an pci ??? |
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 13:54:17
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 14:02:37
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sorry your comments start to nerve too |
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 15:04:07
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While it MIGHT be possible to get Warp running (PowerUP would probraly be easier) it won't be possible to run OS4,MorphOS or Linux on it. |
I disagree, Linux can run without video output, all it needs is RAM disk, and a terminal, and is most likely the easiest to support a board like that. How many routers, NAS boxes run some kind of embedded Linux, do you think?
OS4 or MOS, you need to visualize some services, I think it be difficult, but I am not going to say impossible.
Maybe it is possible to port sheepshaver to it, and run MacOS8 / 9, using virtualized services, I think that is pretty doable.Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 23-Mar-2015 at 01:37 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 22-Mar-2015 at 10:38 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 22-Mar-2015 at 10:07 PM. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 22-Mar-2015 at 03:04 PM.
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 15:20:02
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Interestingly enough I didn't mention AROS. :)
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Re: warpos compatible driver for sonnet ppc accelerator in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 15:20:31
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At first I thought someone was writing a WarpOS wrapper for a Sonnet card in their Mac.
I don't find links useful to justify a subject when I goto them, see them discuss some crap and struggle to find how it relates. Guess I'm too old for BS and want to be told it direct to my face what the OP is talking about.
Anyway, enough of my whining, for now. You mentioned A1 and SMP. Now, after all that, IIRC, there was a dual CPU card in the works for the A1. Ten years ago or there abouts. But we never saw it eventuate. |
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 15:40:13
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Doubt it would even be worth the time since Sonnet only had 30 working cards 2-3 years ago. The rest were missing parts and untested. |
Time flies when you're having fun.
Those #s are now over 4 years old. Heh.
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Re: warpos compatible driver for sonnet ppc accelerator in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 15:48:26
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Guess I'm too old for BS and want to be told it direct to my face what the OP is talking about. |
look up posts by strim in this thread, he also points to code repository. he is one of the coders. the subject is writing a driver for mediator and sonnet ppc boards that would be transparently compatible and run warpos software. thats all, you can skip the usual other bs.Last edited by wawa on 22-Mar-2015 at 03:49 PM. Last edited by wawa on 22-Mar-2015 at 03:48 PM.
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Re: warpos compatible driver for sonnet ppc accelerator in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 21:56:54
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 22:48:21
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 23:02:50
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 23:08:07
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Well Amiga is a cult, nothing wrong with that, I just do not understand way people need to go around tell people there ideas suck, let people enjoy what they do.
We have people here enjoying doing mods, we have people playing around with 7-25 MHZ computers, and we are people who like to write code for PPC accelerator cards, what is wrong with that? If they enjoy it?
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 22-Mar-2015 23:41:26
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you can enjoy what you want
What I do not understand is the bashing each other and this "xy is better than yx", "xy is the only true successor" or "xy is the only Amiga because it is based on 3.1. sources". Most discussions are just generalizations or people only mention emotions.
Funnily I today accidently found a old thread on amiga.org with almost the same nonsense... from 2003. After AmigaOS vs. MorphOS it seems now is AmigaOS vs. AROS. You could say ironic it obviously seems AROS has progressed. But basically all so called "NG" platforms have similar shortcomings except running on different hardware. |
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 9:07:44
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| Reading this thread, I have to kind of agree with OlafS25.
Guys, if you were as enthusiastic about actually doing something productive, as you are about expressing your opinions, we'd have a modern and stable hobby platform(s) by now. Or maybe even something more than a hobby. Just expressing your opinions is not very productive. Anyone can do that. It does require a minimum effort.
I'll tell you all the truth. No one cares. No one gives a damn about what you think is "the best" solution. Besides maybe people who are countering your opinions with their own opinions. Geez.
It seems like you are waiting for messiah-developers (be it AmigaOS, MorphOS or AROS people) to come and realise your dreams. While waiting you are killing boredom with needless arguments.
The thing is, "messiahs" are never going to satisfy you completely. They are just too few and bearing past grudges against each other, which often makes any cooperation between camps impossible. Your favourite platform is not gonna rock the world, that's just not gonna happen with the current attitude of both developers and users.
So take your favourite platform and do something productive. Be it code, documentation, a set of new wallpapers, anything meaningful. Anything else than just your opinion (which probably is not even posted from Amiga).
Fortunately Dennis (who's the main developer of sonnet.library) didn't care about anyone's opinion, he just wanted to do something fun and productive with the Amiga. See what came out of it? After a month or so we have a barebones WarpOS implementation for Sonnet. And it's open source. Anyone wanting to contribute is welcome.
Don't ask what your Amiga/MorphOS/AROS/whatever can do for you. Ask what you can do for your platform (bashing other solutions does not count).
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 10:21:29
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Don't ask what your Amiga/MorphOS/AROS/whatever can do for you. Ask what you can do for your platform |
I used to think same but this is very wrong approach.Last edited by itix on 23-Mar-2015 at 10:21 AM.
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 10:23:35
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Since the thread is already so much off-topic, care to elaborate? If you already countered my opinion so firmly...
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 11:21:26
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It is our job (who develop/sell/distribute OS, HW or something) to make Amiga attractive, we should not ask users to do that. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook |
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 12:13:22
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it should I am a fan of naughty bear. ;)
As for my not sure it makes sense comment that had nothing to do with what strim is doing. However using it for AOS4 or MorphOS at this point with a potential market of 30 makes little to no sense._________________ Support AROS sponsor a developer.
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Re: sonnet ppc accelerator warpos compatible project in progress Posted on 23-Mar-2015 12:43:13
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