@DaveyD

Nice mockups. Much more professional, and easier to read. My eyes need all the help they can get.

Yes. Adding white to the text fields and gadgets, as well as lightening the MUI background, is exactly what OS4 needs. You have it exactly right.

Without contrast, the GUI looks like pig slop. :)

You have it right as well. All they need to do is add white to the text fields and gadgets. That's it!

Contrast is one of the principle elements of design!

@praxis9

I agree, but repliying to your own post in support of yourself is a tactic I've never seen before

IMO once the text gadgets etc have more contrast and the window background is lightened up, it should look brilliant.

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Sound's like a good idea to me...bring it on.

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I've edited one of the screenshots, and changed the brightness and a few other things around, and got this. Does anyone else prefer the lighter colours to the original (it would probably take less than a minute to change the prefs slightly to that look)?

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Since I've done this fairly simply, I know it's knocked out a few things, like the icon brightness and the contrast between the yellow headings on the screenmode prefs and the background. The blue tinge on the active window gadgets is intentional though.

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Yeah alx! Just lighter version of original is
enough IMHO!

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Windows does not have a keyboard short cut in Explorer for creating a new folder

Well it does, but it's not as efficient as AmigaOS Right AMIGA-N

On Windows it's rather long winded, but it's there:

Right Menu Key then W, then enter, then type the name for the new folder.

* The Menu key is just to the right of the right hand windows key, just before the right hand CTRL key ( I call it a menu key as I can't think of a better name) It is the one wuth the mousepointer on it. Of course this assumes a new style keyboard that has the required key on it.

Still give me Right-Amiga N any day !

I just saw the new screenshots after reading OSNEW.COM I noticed an interesting comment that read as follows...

Taken from Osnews

Jeezus! I'm a graphic designer but not a decorating idiot. I'm not asking for the old Amiga zelots to come out and defend some color schemes which I find extremely user-unfriendly and that I could not work with.

I care very much about the underlying technology of my OS but at the same time, I HAVE TO USE IT for long periods of time and the GUI is just as important as the underlying engineering.

That said, you guys forced me to fire up PhotoShop:

OS4 Lighter Metallic mockup version

See? Still all gray but not all the puke...

by Vic Berkshire

Well I have to admit his screen mockup does fair a little more pleasing to the eye compared to the original, no?

Original screenie of OS4

Amazing what a few highlights do for a desktop eh? Ideas?

@KingTutt

...Except he made the texture so bright white text became
unreadable.

It's all only in the eyes of the beholder. For example, I like a
darker desktop. I even run with black backgrounds
occationally.

However, I do like the suggestions in here giving scroll
lists (such as the screen-mode list) a lighter background
rather than the same as the rest of the window. I agree it
makes the overall look more appealing than having the
same colour all over. As for many of the
other suggestions, it's impossible to reach an agreement.
The idea of supplying "themes" is a good one though.

Let's wait a little longer until the final icons, gadgets and
colours are out the door. I think the people at the first AOS
show announced "the final look of the GUI" a little too soon
in light of what the designers themselves have stated.

@Hyperion people

You need not feel defensive because of people coming with suggestions in threads such as this. This is excellent, free PR for you. Rather you should be delighted that hundreds of would-be users are discussing and even customizing an OS that they can't even use yet! Threads like this seems to pop up all over the place. Actually, you should actively support such displays of spontaneous enthusiasm (I guess a theme suggestion page on your/AInc's website would be too much work, but something along those lines).

I still stand by my suggestion from six months ago: that the
GUI-developers should put togehter a selection of "standard
looks" (not major things like several sets of icons and
gadgets, but playing around with different textures and
colours), all of which they are themselves satisfied with -
and let the community vote between them. In this way, the
community get a feeling of being involved, the OS get good
PR (can't be many OS:es who's look has been "decided" by
the fans) while, in reality, you fully control what you want
to release in the end.
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SlimJim

@KingTutt

Way too bright for my eyes. A few hours of that and my eyes would pop out and run for a dark corner under the desk.

- Edit, look at the eyes of my avatar to get the idea ;) -

/Björn

OS4 is coming!! - the world don't expect it. The Amiga is dead they say.

OS4 is gonna get so much attention, and the default theme will be headline/image on soooo many sites.

Take the chance Hyperion/Amiga, and go for somekinda simoami design and you will persuade the world that Amiga really is back....back for the future.....not the past.

I've shown some of my friends the new look, and they didn't say a word.......not a damn word!!......but when I showed them simoamis design they totally freaked out.

Just so you know it.

Keep on the good work guys....you're making all of us proud

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We have an obstacle to overcome before there is any use in trying to please the general public with screenshots.

Try and convience any regular PC/MAC user. Family or business - to convert to AmigaOS4. What would your arguments be? Speed (we're bored of that). Possibilities (Does it have Office XII). And so on...

Believe me - no sane regular-user-kindof-person that find his/her machine useful would change computer because of a OS screenshot. Not without Outlook, Messenger, ICQ, Office, Quark, Explorer/Netscape, Photoshop and so on... Even if they were fooled by the apperance. They would switch back to their Mac, Win32 very soon when they realise lack of commonly used apps. Do we want that? Another line of Amigas on shelves in cupboards?

I'm satisfied with the GUI Hyperion creates and will start making Apps for the AmigaOS4 as soon as it reaches my doorstep. Then some day in the future the real customer base will grow beyond the community we are in. But I think that depends on us all.

EDIT ... This is off topic isn't it?.. sorry - I had a hard weekend

Designing better looking themes for OS4 than the regular drab kind of default look Hyperion have shown in there screenshots is a fantastic idea.

A bit like on Microsoft Windows operating system with the desktop themes, it would be brilliant if OS4 could have something similar.
OS4 will be installed, just go onto the internet and download any theme you want for free.

I like the sound of that

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AmigaOneProductions wrote: Well it does, but it's not as efficient as AmigaOS Right AMIGA-N On Windows it's rather long winded, but it's there: Right Menu Key then W, then enter, then type the name for the new folder. * The Menu key is just to the right of the right hand windows key, just before the right hand CTRL key ( I call it a menu key as I can't think of a better name) It is the one wuth the mousepointer on it. Of course this assumes a new style keyboard that has the required key on it. Still give me Right-Amiga N any day !

Exactly my point. It's rediculous to have to press three keys in sequence as opposed to one or two simultaneously.

I personally believe having customizable short cut keys is just as important, if not more so, than customizable color schemes and gadgets

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staticman wrote: Designing better looking themes for OS4 than the regular drab kind of default look Hyperion have shown in there screenshots is a fantastic idea. A bit like on Microsoft Windows operating system with the desktop themes, it would be brilliant if OS4 could have something similar. OS4 will be installed, just go onto the internet and download any theme you want for free. I like the sound of that

Actaully since AmigaOS 3.5(?) there has been the capabilty to create prepackaged themes... It's just not quite all there yet (IMHO). Hopefuly this will improve in OS 4.

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I think it is all about the contrast. As someone else mentioned, the current official screenshots look 'muddy'. Grey in itself is not the problem, but the invariable, bleak grey all over the place with no ligher shades or a touch of white.

A really neat (and, if i'm not mistaken, very possible to implent) feature of OS4 would be to have it so that you can alter the theme at the press of a hotkey. It would amaze a lot of people to see the whole appearance change semi-instantly at a keypress and still have the same windows open.

After one year, Any news about the guys who make the mockup. Now we have AOS4 in our hands, maybe the could make us some cool theme.


Petrol

@petrol

Well, I did no skin, but if anyone needs a fitting Iconify-Gadget to CnlPepper's "PaperBlue"-Skin, just ask me, I have done one. :)


@steff

Bit off topic, but what rase is the dog on your avatar?

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