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Hardware News   Hardware News : Sam Flex New Prices - I.M.M. Informatique
   posted by Faranheit on 27-May-2009 9:27:48 (6797 reads)
Hi all there ;)

According to the recent modification of the Sam Flex prices at ACube Systems, we give you here our new corresponding prices :

Read more...


- Sam Flex 667Mhz motherboard : 450 euros instead of 465 euros,
- Sam Flex 800Mhz motherboard : 535 euros instead of 489 euros,
Note that we CAN'T separate AmigaOS 4.1 CD from the Sam's motherboards, so please consider adding 120 euros on each motherboard's price for the AmigaOS 4.1 CD !

- Complete Sam Flex 'Cube' system : 799 euros insead of 825 euros, AmigaOS 4.1 is included (with its CD) and pre-installed with Linux Debian too in dual boot on a 250GB harddrive, a dvd writer, 512MB of memory, a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI grahic card and an Aerocool M40 Black cube tower,
- Complete Sam Flex 'Cube' Plus system : 929 euros insead of 890 euros, AmigaOS 4.1 is included (with its CD) and pre-installed with Linux Debian too in dual boot on a 250GB harddrive, a dvd writer, 1GB of memory, a Radeon 9250 128MB PCI grahic card and an Aerocool M40 Black cube tower.

Be aware of an important point : availability for the 800Mhz version of the Sam Flex can reach up to 4 months, while the 667Mhz version can be delivered in 2 / 3 weeks.

We have also some Sam440EP motherboards available at our shop and we can deliver our 'Mini Sam' complete system too with AmigaOS 4.1 pre-installed on a 160Go 2''1/2 harddrive, a SlimSATA dvd writer, and a very small Mini ITX box with a 80W Pico PSU only !


Available soon too : the ARM controllers for Minimig's boards at 55 euros (normal price) or 50 euros for people who has bought a board at IMM Informatique.

Available now : the VGA to Scart cables in order to connect your Minimig to your standard television. Some photos of a Minimig in action with this cable are available HERE

Still available too : the Minibox for Minimig at 89 euros

All prices mentionned above are taxes included and shipping costs are NOT included.

Thanks to all here ;)
Laurent aka Faranheit

    

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bitman 
Re: Sam Flex New Prices - I.M.M. Informatique
Posted on 27-May-2009 11:45:06
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availability for the 800Mhz version of the Sam Flex can reach up to 4 months,


@Acube: Do we have a delivery problem?

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afxgroup 
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Posted on 27-May-2009 12:30:10
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sold out..

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Posted on 27-May-2009 13:01:30
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availability for the 800Mhz version of the Sam Flex can reach up to 4 months, while the 667Mhz version can be delivered in 2 / 3 weeks.

*SIGH*

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Posted on 27-May-2009 13:16:19
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When can people get those back plates?
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1743/samnoah3988009dt4.jpg

Any info from ACube?

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bitman 
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Posted on 27-May-2009 13:21:56
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I'm glad I got the last 800Mhz flex from Amigakit.

It's hard to increase the OS4 userbase when delivery sucks big time.

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Tomas 
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Note that we CAN'T separate AmigaOS 4.1 CD from the Sam's motherboards, so please consider adding 120 euros on each motherboard's price for the AmigaOS 4.1 CD !

What about us who already own a Sam with AmigaOS 4.1?? Why should i have to pay twice for exact same version of OS4.1 when i already own and paid for a copy?

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Posted on 27-May-2009 13:57:58
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@Tomas

Nobody complained with the classic Amiga's?!? So why now?
The OS licence is simply tied to the hardware!

The only thing I can complain about is the fact that they announce
hardware prices without the inclusion of the OS. A bad idea because
questions like these arise.

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Faranheit 
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Posted on 27-May-2009 13:58:03
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Hi Tomas,

We know that, but unfortunately, we can't do it in another way, we're obliged to buy as many AmigaOS 4.1 as Sam's motherboard, so we can't separate it.

This is absolutely not a decision from us.

Sorry for that,
Laurent aka Faranheit

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Trixie 
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Posted on 27-May-2009 14:44:27
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It's hard to increase the OS4 userbase when delivery sucks big time.

Exactly. Either ACube underestimated demand again, or they didn't have enough source capital to finance a larger batch... of the production factory deliveries suck... who knows? Either way, the news can hardly be read as good (especially as the 800MHz Flex went up in price).

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@Faranheit
That is what i thought. But either way it is a stupid decision by Acube/Hyperion. I am much less likely to upgrade if i must pay twice for a copy i already bought. I could understand it if it was a different version targeting a different hardware architecture.

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Exactly. Either ACube underestimated demand again, or they didn't have enough source capital to finance a larger batch... of the production factory deliveries suck... who knows? Either way, the news can hardly be read as good (especially as the 800MHz Flex went up in price).

Probably because there is no 800mhz cpus. They use lower end cpus which they have to test and then overclock. Not all these cpus can be overclocked to 800mhz which probably explains the delays.

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Posted on 27-May-2009 16:29:22
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Hi.
I want to buy SamFlex 800mhz now. Nobody have it on Stock??? I want a complete stuff .. SamFlex 800 + 1gb DDR + ati 9250 + OS4.1.



Best Regards
Pedro

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Posted on 27-May-2009 16:35:51
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Is there really so much difference between 800 mhz and 667 ??

Btw does the ARM board for the MiniMIG fit in Lorianos box ?

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It would be nice to have an official statment from Acube, why this big delay.

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Posted on 27-May-2009 17:42:59
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@Mr_Bug:

The ARM controller should fit in the Minibox because there are high enough.

@ALL:
For the delay for the 800Mhz version, please not the explanation from ACube :
"The new batch of SoC from AMCC are different. The new SoC do not allow upgrading to 800Mhz easily..."

So, it takes much more time to get these new SoC from AMCC working at 800Mhz in other words.

For the moment, please consider ordering the 667Mhz version ;)

Thanks, Laurent aka Faranheit

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Posted on 27-May-2009 18:13:52
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1) Amiga and Hyperion stated from the beginning that any authorized hardware would require an OS license. Since you are going to pay for an OS license, the smart thing for you to do is accept the OS media included with that license, even if you already have a copy.

Did anyone buy their new Classic Amiga but demand the ROMs get removed first and the price reduced?

2) Acube already said that not all of the CPUs could reliably work at 800Mhz. The also have to spend time testing and modifying them. That means higher labor costs, and fewer available 800Mhz boards. If you don't understand this, go back to item 2 on this list and read again.

Do you think all the complaints about hardware prices make ACube hope they can sell large batches of their most expensive board, even if that gives a slight discount? No.

3) I also want a backplate, but I'm glad I could buy the SAM before waiting until the backplates were ready.

Last edited by logicalheart on 27-May-2009 at 06:17 PM.
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@Tomas

Quote:
But either way it is a stupid decision by Acube/Hyperion. I am much less likely to upgrade if i must pay twice for a copy i already bought. I could understand it if it was a different version targeting a different hardware architecture.

Would you use one copy of Windows on 2 PCs? If yes, then you are a pirate.
It's exactly the same for OS4.

@logicalheart
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2) Acube already said that not all of the CPUs could reliably work at 800Mhz. The also have to spend time testing and modifying them. That means higher labor costs, and fewer available 800Mhz boards. If you don't understand this, go back to item 2 on this list and read again.

Agreed.

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Would you use one copy of Windows on 2 PCs? If yes, then you are a pirate. It's exactly the same for OS4.

Who said anything about using one copy on two computers?? You can also run linux on those acube boards. If i decided to upgrade sometime in the future then i would most likely install linux on my old 533mhz sam and use it as a low powered linux server. There are other ways to stop people from using two copies at once, like maybe a serial key check?

There is no way you can use one copy of windows on two computers anyways, unless you use some kind of crack or keygen.

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@ bitman

Quote:
m glad I got the last 800Mhz flex from Amigakit. It's hard to increase the OS4 userbase when delivery sucks big time.


Purchasing in the Amiga marketplace has been very competitive over the years.
If you want something then you need to buy as soon as you can, before the supply dries up.
Remember Miami DX , Phase V PowerPC boards, Amithlon , Amiga Ones and many others.

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@Tomas Quote:
Who said anything about using one copy on two computers?? You can also run linux on those acube boards.

I'm sure that's what the unlicensed Windows PC pirates told Microsoft . I am NOT saying you want to pirate, but VERY FEW people are going to want to do what you describe (there being much much cheaper boards to run Linux exclusively). Basically this is the only way to be sure that Hyperion get their dues (serial keys are easily cracked, sad to say), without some sort of dongle (which everyone derided when Amiga Inc announced that for the Amiga Ones).

If you want a Sam440 to install Linux on, then contact ACube direct & ask them about the embedded (non-consumer) version of Sam440ep. I'm sure they'll be happy to help.

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