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Nintendo Expected to Cut Wii Price by $50

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Following price cuts by its two rivals, Nintendo is expected to reduce the price of its Wii video game system by $50 later this week. The widely expected move could help the company reverse the company’s slowing momentum as it heads into the holiday sales period. Numerous leaked retail circulars indicate the Wii’s price will fall to $199. This would be the system’s first price change since it was introduced in 2006.

Last edited by fairlanefastback on 24-Sep-2009 at 12:02 AM.

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I often get the feeling we are discussing on different wavelenghts. You too often seem to read something which wasn't stated

I appreciate the feedback and preceive you have the issue with others here too.

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The problem with Ratchet happened under very specific circumstances, that's why the vast majority of users and all reviewers didn't discover this bug.

A fair explaination. A bug none the less.

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especially so as the RSX was designed specifically for taking good advantage of the Cell

The Cell + RSX was a less integrated design than the Xenon + Xenos.

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its tunnel vision weaknesses not a big issue due to the Cell strongpoints for well optimised games

And there's the rub. As developers have stated over and over again the PS3 is animal of a different color. The result is a different programming model. This results in more time to learn the system (read labor) , and games that take longer to produce (read longer time to market). The result of this is the economics of game development is tighter. If one doesn't get a good majority of PS3 owners to buy one's game the chances are better the profits won't be made, or worse losses. So yeah it is a big issue to developers bottom lines.

EDIT: If Sony had made a compelling enough story with the PS3 out of the gate their position wouldn't be last in console sales. Due to this it makes LOTS of sense to go cross-platform with the 360. One has a wider audidence to sell their games and a better chance to recover investments and make a profit. IMO Sony decided their own fate and we see the results. Less exclusives and more cross platform. Who knows how the $300 price point will play out in the long term. Ideally sales should be better. The Wii and 360 simply need to drop their price a bit more. The result is Sony is again the high priced option in a world wide recession.

Last edited by BrianK on 24-Sep-2009 at 12:39 PM.

@MikeB

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MikeB wrote: @BrianK Quote: This is an example of why people see you as a PS3 zealot. You acknowledge the glitches exist due to a patch being made. You then try to excuse this as if it's not really a glitch. Simply acknowledge PS3 games do have glitches, it's not unheard of. What are you talking about? Of course PS3 exclusive games have bugs. I was talking about the Ghostbusters issues, not about the bugs in PS3 exclusives. There was quite a few things in that game on the PS3 which required patching, pointing towards the PS3 version lagging behind in development, needing to catch up (less room for testing). I often get the feeling we are discussing on different wavelenghts. You too often seem to read something which wasn't stated. Quote: Really? Cuz the Ratchet and Unreal bugs were found this way? Certainly they were by the end user. The problem with Ratchet happened under very specific circumstances, that's why the vast majority of users and all reviewers didn't discover this bug. Quote: Such as how it handles textures and shading. Of course, that's why I highlighted the Cell (for example flexible SPU shading) and Blu-Ray disc capacity (for things like texture streaming), as advantages (also audio streaming, etc of course). That's why I state the PS3 should be judged as a system, rather than GPU vs GPU specs, especially so as the RSX was designed specifically for taking good advantage of the Cell (and the 360 nor PCs come with a Cell). The RSX is far more useful at what it does well within the PS3 architecture, its tunnel vision weaknesses not a big issue due to the Cell strongpoints for well optimised games.

On a gaming PC, there's very little need for CELL i.e. Crysis PC says hello..

Care to start Uncharted 2 vs Crysis?

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