In this article, they say that pentium 4's, in the first and second quarter of 2004 will hit 3.20GHz and 3.40GHz.

And in this article, they will get to 4.0 GHz by the end of 2004!!!!




AmigaOne! no comment

Anyway P4 sucks. Hi clocks speed, low perfomance per cycle.

Amiga with a fast OS like OS4, with a G4 from 800Mhz to 1,2Ghz will be enough for a start

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Written in the dirt on the side of my lorry today.

" This year Santa's using Os4 to control his sleigh (Instead of Windows)

So he will get round in half the time ....
Using Half the effort."


Mrs Santa has a glint in her eye !!


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Point being ..

You can drive as fast as you want. But if the traffic lights keep changing to red as you approach ..... guess who's gonna be pulling up next to you without breaking sweat !!!



( I'm in and around Norwich today & tomorrow .. Stop me and buy one !!)

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Don't forget, when you calculate the cost of purchasing that super cPu to add in the cost of an extra air conditioner for the computer room. . . . .

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I wonder how much power will be consumed/wasted by the 4Ghz P4...

...but can it run OS4? There is far more to computer performance than GHz. The Amiga platform is getting a real lift next year, while Wintendo stays the same. The technical specs are increasing rapidly, but it has been that way for years. It was that way when my mates were getting 90MHz Pentiums. Once you got over the initial buzzword dizzyness, you saw it for what it was: A boring computer which was obsolete within a year.

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Don't forget, when you calculate the cost of purchasing that super cPu to add in the cost of an extra air conditioner for the computer room. . . . .

During winter, I use my computers to help heat the room!

hmm???

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rayt wrote: I wonder how much power will be consumed/wasted by the 4Ghz P4...

Yes YOU will only consume use 1/10 of such power like 4 Ghz anyway and that is waste with power!
so AmigaOne G4 with nice GFX board is more than enaugh!

PC owners try just to beat each other in computer performance without just need this such of performance!

PS: When OS 4.0 is here i would uppgrade my amigaone to worst Amiga in Sweden! LOL!
I have been infected with some wierd kind of Ghz Virus uppgrade hysteri from my PC friends here in (SWE)

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Atheist wrote:
In this article, they say that pentium 4's, in the first and second quarter of 2004 will hit 3.20GHz and 3.40GHz.

And in this article, they will get to 4.0 GHz by the end of 2004!!!!




BUT! you cant drive OS 4.0 on Intel! until thats possible its not helping me with so much power! Amiga is fun and Wintel are boring my choice is easy!

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ikir wrote: Anyway P4 ####. Hi clocks speed, low perfomance per cycle. Amiga with a fast OS like OS4, with a G4 from 800Mhz to 1,2Ghz will be enough for a start

Yer but then theres alwasy AMD to bring you back down again :) AMD have impressed me, i didnt know a huge amount about them but clock for clock they seem to out run intel with a great ease. At least those are the old ones i saw. Not sure what the bests ones doing these days, although i did see some benchmarks that said AMD were beating intel in almost every test except for a few, but then again AMDs clock is a lot lower than intel. Also, apparantly AMDs are getting cooler too.

I think my next machine may be and AMD64 now, even thought i dont need it, they're damn cheap and damn fast :) Thats my kinda of computer!

As I understood it, PPC has the lead over 8086 chips now that the G5 is available?

To be quite honest what would you do with all that horse power anyway???????????

I've got an old k6 500MHz PC here running Windows 98. Ok - not the best thing in the world, but it runs ok and it runs Office 97 fine.

My ~300MHz (whatever it is) Playstation 2 gives me a great gaming experience. It may benefit from a faster CPU (allowing more polygons etc), but it still plays fine.

I could up the clock speed on my A1 like some people have done, but a G4 800 MHz seems speedy enough for me (and I do put it to extensive every-day use).

So imagine having a 4 GHz machine like you say, what exactly would you do with it that was different or vastly improved to say a 2 GHz machine available now?

...and remember a machine is only as fast as it's slowest bit! Front Side Bus, Memory Speed, Graphics Bus and OS all play a part in how a machine performs.

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All computers wait at the same speed.

You would be amazed if you ever found out how much of an OS consists of waiting for things

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Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.

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soft wrote: As I understood it, PPC has the lead over 8086 chips now that the G5 is available?

Take a look at the P4 3.2Ghz EE chip, which is impossible to find to buy. Along with the AMD 64bit chips. You'll find the G5 is in the pack but isn't the lead.

The AMD 64 trounces a 3.2GHz P4 whilst running at something like 2GHz and that is only executing 32-bit code!

The Athlon XP 3200+ is also faster, at least £100 cheaper, and runs at about 400MHz less. You can see why I have never bought an Intel chip!

It must seem like P4's have been around 3 years now. They are antiquated technology. Get AMD!

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And another thing, if I recall, even in the Amiga's hey day it lost out in terms of MHz. That was not to say that it lost out in performance. Given the following choices at roughly the same prices-

7.14 MHz 68000 or 8Mhz 8086
14.3 MHz 68020EC or 16 MHz 386SX
25 MHz 68040 or 66 MHz 486DX2

I would choose Motorola every time.

Motorola and Amiga marketed their systems more honestly. 386 PC's were marketed as 32-bit systems where most of them were the 16-bit data bus SX models. The 68000 is also a 16/32 processor but did you see Atari, Sega or Commodore market their 68000 machines as 32-bit?

When Apple and Commodore made 68040 machines they was sold as 25 MHz computers, even though they ran internally at 50 MHz. PC manufactures sold their 486DX2 systems as 66 MHz machines. They actually ran externally at 33 MHz and was double clocked internally to 66 MHz. Even so a 68040 still blew the socks off a 486.

Today IBM / Motorola PPC still has a better MHz throughput than Intel. Although to compare with x86 processors today we need G5's. Whether a Amiga G5 and the software to make use of it will be available remains to be seen.

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Intuitioned wrote: The AMD 64 trounces a 3.2GHz P4 whilst running at something like 2GHz and that is only executing 32-bit code! The Athlon XP 3200+ is also faster, at least £100 cheaper, and runs at about 400MHz less. You can see why I have never bought an Intel chip! It must seem like P4's have been around 3 years now. They are antiquated technology. Get AMD!

P4 3.2Ghz Extreme Edition is very comparable to the Athlon XP 3200+ and the FX sometimes one is faster sometimes the other. It depends on what you're using for a benchmark or doing. The problems are that the EE is very rare to find in stock and it's about 30% more then the AMD FX.

As for speeds of the CPUs the Intel runs at 3.2Ghz while the AMD FX-51 runs as 2.2Ghz and the AMD64 runs at 2Ghz. So, you're talking comparable chips at 1Ghz or approx. 50% less power.

Even if AOS4.x isn't optimized for G4 or G5 processors I'm all for Amiga moving to the G5. Future PPC chips will most likely be G5 series. Also, the G5 is supposedly less expensive to buy then the G4. I'd rather have a 2Ghz G5 running 32 bit then a 800Mhz G4 running the same OS. I'm fine with having Amiga not use the 64bit extensions for a while but it's got to make inroads to keep up in CPU speed.

Lets step back in time for a moment.

I can remember when speed was everything to the PC croud. The PC desperately tried to have a fluent animation. It wasn't until the 486 came out that they had decent one. You know, an A1000 topper.

What would happen if you removed all of the special media handling capabilities they added to the pentium and graphics card to get decent motion graphics like MPeg. Could that 4Ghz get 30 or 60 frames per second of video? What about at full screen? How much CPU load. . . . Geeeze the load. . . .

A PPC powered Amiga with an Amiga Style lite on its feet OS will be more than enough.

True Story:
My son-in-law Mike baught a 1Ghz iMacII ($1,800). His best friend Brian baught a Sony 3Ghz Super System ($3,000). Both were DVD Burning Machines. Neither had any real experience on the others machine. The Mac was favored by both parties. You could do more in less time on the Mac

Brian tried to return his Sony but they wouldn't take it back.

The Moral of the story: Speed isn't everything.

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Mac's kick ass.
The Mac G5 beats the pants off the latest PC's in some tasks