I have been playing with Basilisk 2 on Amiga OS4.1 for some time and thought I would share my findings. I am running Basilisk 2 on Amiga OS4.1 update 4 on a 256 color screen.

My Basilisk 2 settings:

Hard drive partiton or hardfile with MAC system 7.5.5

Amiga OS 4 root - RAM
Boot from CD - no, disable CD - no
SCSI settings - all their original default
Modem - serial.device, unit 0 (parallel device not checked)
Modem #2 parallel.device, unit 0 (parallel device checked)

System:
Graphics settings: Mode - frame skipping, width 800, height 600 Mode ID 50021000
8 bit mode - yes! Frame skip set to lowest detent
Sound - leave unchecked - sound is enabled
System - RAM 128Mb CPU 68040, Mac odel Quadra 900 (MAC OS 8.x), ROM - PERFORMA.ROM

Programs (mostly from) MacIntosh Garden that work on Basilisk 2 for Amiga OS4.1

UTILITIES THAT ARE TESTED AND WORK:

Agent Audio
Anagrams 1.2
AreaCodeFinder 4.1 - okay but data is outdated
Adobe Acrobat 3.0
Nisus3.06
Simple Text Color 2.1.4
BBEdit Lite 4.1
Filemaker Pro 2.1
RAM Charger 8.0.1
Disinfectant 3.7.1
FilmMaker 1.5
GrafEq 2.03d
MACFlow 3.0.1
Texture Mill 1.1
Conflict Catcher 3
Darkside 4.1
CFM-68k-Runtime
Stuffit Expander 5.5
Kaleidoscope 2.3.1
DigSim
Tech Tool 1.2.1
Calendar Maker 2.2.1
iCab Pre 2.99b
FreePPP 2.5
PPPMenu 2.0.2
MacPaint 2.0
Eye On The Clock 1.2
Icon Machine 1.3
FullWrite 2.0.6
Code Warrior Lite 2.1
QuickTime 3.0
QuickTime VR Player 1.0.2
Graphic Converter 4.1
Decor 3.0.4
Type & Speak 0.5.5
Aldus Type Twister 1.0
Microsoft Word 6.0
Easy Errors 1.2
Labview 3.1
Drag Strip
Speed Doubler 2
Mac Errors 2.0.1
MacTools Deluxe 1.2
DiskCopy 6.1.2
Power Calc 2.0
JPeg View 3.3
MAC Money 2.02b
Norton Utilities 3.1 - speed tests always show 0
Quicken 5
MacInTalk 3
MacInTalk Pro
Hyper Card 2.3.5
Netscape Navigator 4.0.4


UTILITIES I COULD NOT GET TO WORK

Aldus Freehand 3.1
Arnold's Midi Player
AutoCAD
Easy3D Image
FlowChart Maker
MAC Amp 2.0.1 - needs PPC emulation
Claris CAD
Claris Organizer 2
FoxBase 2.0
MacBench 4.0 - works but doesn't show valid speed values
CADIntosh
Adobe Photoshop 3.0 - almost works but shows monitor setup invalid and exits
Clockometer 1.7.2
AddressOffice
anAtlas 1.5
Speedometer 4.0 - doesn't show valid speed test values
Bryce 2 - no display


EDUCATIONAL GAMES TESTED AND WORKING

Atomic MAC 4.1.0
Learn & Play 1.5
New Mathblaster Plus
Fatty Bear's Birthday Surprise - works but no sound
Countries and Capitals 1.1
Adding 3 Fractions
Mario Teaches Typing
Amazon Trail
Reading Maze
Number Munchers
Reader Rabbit 2
FaceMaker
Al Bunny 1.4
Arthur's Birthday Demo
Supper Time
Arcs and Sectors
Orly's Draw A Story
Gizmos & Gadgets
MacEmatics
Kid Keys
Kid Calc .91
Treasure Mathstorm
Fraction Tiles
Flight Math 1.1
Triangle Types
MathSkills Maker 2.0.1
Kids Animation Maker 1.0.1
Rommy Robot 2.4
Pizza Party Puzzles
Incredible Toon Machine
Island of Dr Quandry
Gryphon Bricks 1.0.1
Holiday Lights 3.0
ArtValue 2.0


EDUCATIONAL GAMES THAT DO NOT WORK

Geo Genius USA
Europe!
Castle of Dr Brain
Simon 1.0


GAMES TESTED AND WORKING

Alien Arcade
Alien Invaders
Astro Rock
Awale 2.2.0
Bachman 2.0.4
Battle for the Planets
Blaster 2
Bob vs the Aliens
Boom
Burning Monkey solitaire
Busy Little Brains
Cabol 2
Castles - siege and Comquest
Chessmaster
Chiral 1.0.1
Colorfall
Cross Cards 1.0
Dungeon Master 2
Doom 1
Doom 2 (actually playable in 256 colors!)
Eliza
Epsilon 1.0
Escape Velocity 1.0.5
Exile III
Fluffy's Adventure
Greebles 1.0
Ingmars Skiing
Mah Jong Parlor
Mr Cats Quest
P.F. Magic Catz
Quickshot Deluxe
Realmz 4.3.4
SCS Mines 1.0
Shatterball 0.29a
Slime Invaders
Star Fighters 1.3


GAMES THAT I COULD NOT GET TO WORK

Bedlam 2 - works but takes 10+ minutes to load!
Deadlock
Deadlock demo
Aperion 1.0.2
Mac BZone
Zed's Simple collection


Okay, that's it for now! I hope this helps people see that Basilisk 2 for OS4 really does work and that many great games and tools are available for it.

Scott

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@scabit

Good work!

I see MS Word 6.0 works. One wonders if it is more useable than AbiWord in AmiCygnix.

@pavlor

Works better with ShapeShifter on a 68060-Amiga.. But at least it works.

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@scabit

Fantastic work there Scott! What Amiga are you running OS4.1 on? Classic, A1, SAM, X1000?

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@scabit

I was not aware that there was a Mac emulator that ran on OS4.x. This is great news! I enjoyed running the Emplant and Shapeshifter emulators on my A2000 many years ago, and will enjoy running Basilisk2 on my X1000 now and in the future. Just for running some of the older Mac programs or games, as I have plenty other Mac's to run MacOSX programs and games on.

What is the latest version of MacOS that Basilisk2 will run? Can it run MacOS8.0? 8.5, or 9.2?

To the other poster that wrote that Shapeshifter on a 68060 runs better, can you explain what you are comparing it against?

I was amazed and very pleased with how well my 030/33 A2000 ran MacOS7.5 as well as many real Mac's that were not too old at the same time I was emulating them.

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@amigadave

MacOS 9 doesn't work on a 68k system.

If you are to use a previously Shapeshifter driven hardfile with Basilisk II then I would like to hear how that went.

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@scabit

Excellent effort man. Good to see a fellow Amigan sharing their hard work and experiences with others.

Ed

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@amigadave

the last 68k MacOS is v8.1.

If anyone wants a hdf or iso of 8.1/8.1 install they can have a copy contact me.
8.1 can use the newer unjournalled hfs+ filesystem

8.5.1 is only for 68k systems with a ppc card.
8.6+ is for ppc only systems.
up untill i realised my psu was the culprit for corrupting my hdd and my 4.1 install sdcard,
I was woriking on basiliskII also...

cool doom2 works on 68k?!

ill soon add to this list.
a real shame cdrom emulation doesnt work on 4.x yet...
I wonder if fusion ppc works well on 4.x - maybe faster or better featurelist than an assumed 68k app for os4 - basiliskIIos4.

now if someone could get MOL running on os4 - or linux for the 460 so I can run mol, I could run the ppc os's on my sam. i would run 7.5.5 for ppc really fast on a 1ghz cpu, as well as 9.2.2 and 10.4.

Last edited by Barana on 07-Apr-2012 at 01:37 AM.

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Barana wrote: @amigadave the last 68k MacOS is v8.1. 8.1 can use the newer unjournalled hfs+ filesystem up untill i realised my psu was the culprit for corrupting my hdd and my 4.1 install sdcard, I was woriking on basiliskII also... cool doom2 works on 68k?! ill soon add to this list. a real shame cdrom emulation doesnt work on 4.x yet... I wonder if fusion ppc works well on 4.x - maybe faster or better featurelist than an assumed 68k app for os4 - basiliskIIos4.

To my knowledge, Fusion PPC was never finished and left many people (including me) that bought it, angry at Jim Drew and Microcode Solutions for quitting on it shortly after releasing it for sale.

I don't know what happened to Jim Drew and his partner. I know that there were more than a few people unhappy with him for various reasons, but he was a talented coder that was an asset to the Amiga community. Shame about the author of Shapeshifter who (aledgely) stole code from Jim Drew and his partner to create Shapeshifter and Jim was unable to recover any damages, because it was too expensive to try to take him to court in a different country. I have Fusion PPC, but have never tried to install in on an OS4.x, or MorphOS2.x computer.

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@scabit

Thank you! I'd like to say you are one of the most productive posters here!

Why dont you use OS 8.1 instead of 7.5.5?

@AmigaDave
That stuff about Jim Drew getting screwed is correct. I
bought Ifuion as well it was pretty beta but did function.. but yes many ppl were pissed. (but how pissed if it was never released?

Last edited by realize on 07-Apr-2012 at 01:49 AM.

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I am using an AmigaOne ua1-c - 800 Mhz G3 with 500M RAM.

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Why dont you use OS 8.1 instead of 7.5.5?

I tried installing MAC OS8.1 from Cd and could not get it to work with this version of Basilisk 2. That is, it installed and completed the process, but whenever I tried to boot from anything other than the CD, Basilisk 2 got locked up in the booting process when it goes to load extensions. And yes, I tried turning off extensions to no avail.
The current version of OS4 Basilisk 2 needs some work. It does not show proper timings with any performance utility I try to run on the MAC, speedometer, norton tools etc. Also it really needs some work on getting the ethernet I/O code for OS4 working so we can have high speed internet access. Some time ago I got dial up working through Basilisk 2, but it is obviously sloooooowww!
If anyone has a disk image of MAC OS 8.1 that works with the OS4 version of Basilisk 2, please PM me as I would like to try it. As I said, I have a proper Apple OS8.1 CD but although it boots from the CD drive just fine under Basilisk 2, I have never gotten a working installed partition for OS8.1.

Thanks,

Scott

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@amigadave

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What is the latest version of MacOS that Basilisk2 will run? Can it run MacOS8.0? 8.5, or 9.2? To the other poster that wrote that Shapeshifter on a 68060 runs better, can you explain what you are comparing it against?

The latest version I can get to run on the OS4 version of Basilisk 2 is Os7.5.5. It is supposed to work with 8.1, but I have not gotten that working.
The OS4 version of Basilisk 2 uses 68k emulation code from E-UAE, and as such is not (on my 800 Mhz ua1-c) quite as fast as running on a real 68060 processor where emulating the 68k code is not needed. On an X1000 this might be different. Even so, many games such as Arthur's Talking Book Adventures, The Learning Companies Gizmoes and Gadgets and Doom2 work just fine in 256 color mode on my AmigaOne with Basilisk 2.

Scott

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@scabit

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uses 68k emulation code from E-UAE

We must hope that UAE JIT will be completed and then ported to Basilisk II.

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Doom2 work just fine in 256 color mode on my AmigaOne

Sounds good! This game needs at least 68040 to be useable.

@scabit

Nice post! Good job testing all that stuff.

The Macintosh Garden website (http://www.macintoshgarden.org) is a nice
resource for Basilisk apps.

You got me to install the latest Basilisk from OS4Depot on my X1K. It ran
fine, but has similar issues like it had running on my SAM & XE... It's just
not quite as compatible as Shapeshifter was.

Specifically, I've been trying to run CAD software (MiniCAD7.0.3) that ran
fine on Shapeshifter; it loads up and generates MacOS error "type 28".
I tried boosting the app's RAM allocation and that made no difference.

For me, that's the main Mac app so I guess Basilisk will go into the ice box
until a better version comes along.

Yes, it would be nice if Basilisk supported networking and if the virtual SANA
network device works with Roadshow, so could share its connection with the
Mac. Hopefully, that will come at some point too.

Q: How do you get a Mac to multitask well?

A: Run a Mac emulation on an Amiga.

;)

PJS

@scabit

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am using an AmigaOne ua1-c - 800 Mhz G3 with 500M RAM.

Cheers. It should be even better on the X1000 then. Once again, great work sharing this.

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@pjs

Out of curiosity, have you tried booting up with extensions turned off and then trying to run the MiniCAD 7.0.3? The MAC forums suggest that an error 28 may be the result of an extension incompatibility problem. You may have something in your extensions that causes the program to choke and die when you start it up.

Scott

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@scabit

It sure would be nice to have a new MacOSX emulator that could be run while using OS4.1.5 on my X1000, but I doubt that there is anyone capable of writing such an emulator around the Amiga community any longer.

I would love to be able to run MacOSX10.5.8 in a window, or separate screen, at the same time I am running OS4.1.5, and maybe DOS-Box in another window, or separate screen.

Does PC-Task run under OS4.1.5's Petunia emulation on an X1000, or does it need E-UAE to run?

That would really take me back in time to when I was running AmigaOS2.1 on my A2000 w/Vector 030/33MHz, with Shapeshifter running MacOS7.5.5 and running Windows3.1 on my Goldengate bridgeboard, all at the same time without any slow down of anything. That made people look and shake their heads in disbelief.

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Does PC-Task run under OS4.1.5's Petunia emulation on an X1000, or does it need E-UAE to run?

Hmmm.. I thought that one of the two versions of PC-Task worked under Os4 using Petunia.... the other crashed and burned. If I recall, two versions were supplied of PC-Task, one was a sort of JIT compilation while the other was not. I don't remember which one I got to work, but I am pretty sure ( at least in earlier versions of OS4) one of them did.

Scott

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@amigadave

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Does PC-Task run under OS4.1.5's Petunia emulation

DosBox offers better compatibility with reasonable speed. Emulated 68k PC-Task wouldn´t be much faster.

I was told DosBox works OK on the X1000 even with 20000 CPU cycles (486DX/2 performance). For most old games 5000 CPU cycles is more than enough (including Win3.1/95).