@Phantom

Yes it is a closed source project and I personally am convinced thal any commercial OS projects in such a small market fail. And then the "super-niche" hardware strategy was wrong in the past, is wrong and will be wrong in the future...

Even if it would published by Commodore, what would be the benefit for the users? 99.999999 % of users do not care about "heritage", if there is 68k code used to develop a OS or not. They have either never heard of "Amiga" or are using PCs or Macs today (both X86). How do you want them to buy new (expensive) hardware just to run AmigaOS? If that would have been the case AmigaOS would be in another position. Either AmigaOS is ported to standard hardware or it is only something for a few hundred enthusiasts that are left.

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@Darrin

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What the FPGA Arcade really needs is the ability to run AROS 68k with the replacement ROM and WHDLoad. Trying to get a license to OS3.x and genuine Kickstarts from Amiga.inc will probably be "mission impossible".

well, then someone needs to go ahead and try to run aros on that fpga arcade. you have the hardware. so its up to you.

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@Phantom

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If that AmigaOS 4.1 was published by Commodore-Amiga Inc, will you say the same?

yes. if it was managed like that. commodore amiga was in time of its decline a flourishing platform in comparison to os4, not to talk of aros or mos, or the scene in general. this all apparently due to the fact that majority of people stick with so called "official platform" that is able to deliver nothing but delays. first it was amiga inc and today its hyperion. all worthy alternatives like amithlon or morphos have been dismissed. its enough. time is up.

@wawa

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may be, but im fed up with announcements by now. moreover

Announcements of announcements and then years of waiting, that is Amiga way of life.

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i hardly intend to buy any expensive hardware for any kind of "amiga" anymore.

Price would be definitely deciding factor. However, judging by recent CyberstormPPC prices (over 1000 EUR), even 500 EUR could be considered cheap.
I ever wanted to buy BlizzardPPC for my A1200, but I had no money 14 years ago. Ability to run most recent version of AmigaOS on my good-old A1200 would be more than tempting.

@pavlor

You talk about the hardcore-fans (that regard everything below 1000 EUR as "cheap" ). Outside people think very very different...

@OlafS25

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Yes it is a closed source project and I personally am convinced thal any commercial OS projects in such a small market fail.

Unfortunately, it's rather not possible legally for AOS4 to go open-source as Hyperion is not the owner (sole owner) of the legacy code, AFAIK.

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@nimrod7

if they wanted they could at least opened part of the code and used open-source code from Aros (like MOS). They had a different strategy (hardware and OS) and opensource was certainly never a part of.

I understand from what I read that some have a emotional connection to AmigaOS (because it is called AmigaOS) but that is not really persuading people outside.

@nimrod7

get your facts right
hyperion do own the rights to os 4.x amiga inc sold them to focus on there aa...

@OlafS25

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but that is not really persuading people outside.

You mean milions of people currently using AROS?

@pavlor

lol

Not comarable to the millions of AmigaOS user of course...

@OlafS25

They're is no point to hate MorphOS, or AmigaOS 4.x or 68k AmigaOS. We all have AmigaOS 3.1 as a base.

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@Phantom

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They're is no point to hate MorphOS, or AmigaOS 4.x or 68k AmigaOS

Exactly.

@pavlor

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I ever wanted to buy BlizzardPPC for my A1200, but I had no money 14 years ago. Ability to run most recent version of AmigaOS on my good-old A1200 would be more than tempting.

i own a cyberstorm ppc. i considered it a waste of money all the way long and though i bought it some day and now im sure its a waste of money. you can see it in the video. the on ly reason i prefer it over my both others cs_mk1s is that its compact and its faster scsi controller. and that im too lazy to sell it. ppc side actually does not get any use these days.

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@nimrod7

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Unfortunately, it's rather not possible legally for AOS4 to go open-source as Hyperion is not the owner (sole owner) of the legacy code, AFAIK.

therefore: aros. enough of legal harassment. lets concentrate on computing..

@pavlor

I do not "hate" AOS (or MorphOS) but I think they are on the wrong path and have no real future. Other people can have different opinions but when somebody starts with phrases like "only" and "true" I do have the right to respond.

@wawa

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ppc side actually does not get any use these days.

Today, I would not use my A1200 even with new CPU card as main computer, it has its age and deserves some rest. However, I would probably consider buying semi-modern PowerPC card to run OS4, only to have it inside. For real work I use other computers.

@OlafS25

Actually no-one has a bright future. If you think that AROS has a bright future, then you're living in another world.

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@OlafS25

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and have no real future

I don´t think any OS without VM, memory protection and support for more than 4 GB RAM has real future.

@Phantom

First define "bright" for me

@pavlor

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You mean milions of people currently using AROS?

please not take it as insult but one programmer of the class of jason attracted from the outside might well out-weight all the, beg your pardon, bedroom coders visiting this site, not to talk of people who just brag about and have no real interest or idea about that real thing. you know who i mean. its a shame aros has not enough publicity and even in this community is treated literally, as cinderella. openness is the only way to attract fresh blood, which is there somewhere. but they will not come to sign ndas on their hobby projects.

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