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cdimauro 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 6:35:52
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@MagicSN

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MagicSN wrote:
@Hammer

If it runs at good speed it solves the issue of gcc 68k at one point maybe no longer available. And many optimizer issues/lib issues/headaches when porting a program to 68k (of course I would still do 68k versions for programs where things slower than a PiStorm could run them). And it also would at least partially solve the "library xy not available for 68k" issue. For WarpOS much more (though not as many as for OS4 and MOS) libraries are available, compared to 68k (though SDL2 is not available for WarpOS either).

Better to switch to LLVM, and support its experimental 68k backend.

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 6:36:19
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@cdimauro

some scumbags and idiots try to convice us amiga users to switch from ppc to x86/arm
I see no reasons to use amiga os or it clones on x86/arm as long as they are still on win 98 level
For commodity hardware I have decent oses like windows/linux/mac os
so mega, karlos, szulc, szonwejs, abot, hammer, cd mauro stop trolling and start working on aros
made it no more than 20 years behind windows/linux/mac os

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cdimauro 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 6:44:52
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@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote:
@cdimauro

some scumbags and idiots try to convice us amiga users to switch from ppc to x86/arm
I see no reasons to use amiga os or it clones on x86/arm as long as they are still on win 98 level
For commodity hardware I have decent oses like windows/linux/mac os
so mega, karlos, szulc, szonwejs, abot, hammer, cd mauro stop trolling and start working on aros
made it no more than 20 years behind windows/linux/mac os




I don't take orders from a complete idiot which isn't able to distinguish a C64 game from an Amiga one.

My only pleasure is bashing your CraPPC UnderPoweredPC processor which runs on PCs-with-x86-CPUs-replaced-by-PowerPC-ones which are NOT, and NEVER will be, Amigas.

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michalsc 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 6:50:43
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@ppcamiga1

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some scumbags and idiots try to convice us amiga users to switch from ppc to x86/arm I see no reasons to use amiga os or it clones on x86/arm as long as they are still on win 98 level


Bro, I do not try to convince you to switch to x86/arm. In fact, I will be happy if you stfu and stay away from classic Amiga, pistorm, emu68 and arm as far away as possible. Stay in your mentally ill lala-land and be there forever.

Btw, ever heard of chatgpt? You could use that tool to convert your broken English and equally broken Polish - you native tongue, to a level more understandable to the audience.

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 9:43:29
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szulc stop trolling and start working on zune on aros
everything what you do up to now is worth nothing shit
do something usefull port zune to unix

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michalsc 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 12:05:29
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Joined: 14-Jun-2005
Posts: 475
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@ppcamiga1

Several hundred people have different opinion than yours and I value their opinions much more than yours. So, don’t care what you think :) bye :)

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Amiboy 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 12:13:31
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@ppcamiga1

Still waiting on a response........... or is the lack of a properly worded response to my query a confirmation of your lies and trolling??

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 13:50:07
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@michalsc

szulc stop trolling and start working on zune on aros
everything what you do up to now is worth nothing shit
do something usefull port zune to unix

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 13:53:02
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@Amiboy

what response?
It's your problem that you're stupid and be fooled by szulc.
stop trolling

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Amiboy 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 14:34:34
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@ppcamiga1

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ppcamiga1 wrote:
@Amiboy

what response?
It's your problem that you're stupid and be fooled by szulc.
stop trolling


See the following;

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=45506&forum=2&start=80&viewmode=flat&order=0#880768

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=45506&forum=2&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0#880811

And also post #19 in this very thread;

https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=45587&forum=8&start=0&viewmode=flat&order=0#881108

I think I may have also asked this in another thread or 2, but currently cannot find links.

If the question is too difficult for you to comprehend please let me know, I can try and dumb it down for you (although even then I think you would struggle with your understanding).

Having physical access to my piStorm on my A1200 and running EMU68, I can see and hear with my own senses the video coming out of the RBG port and audio out of the RCA ports for any classic software/games that I use standing in completely contradiction to your claims, so I would like to hear your evidence for your claims regards piStorm & Emu68.

At this point your are just trolling otherwise.

Last edited by Amiboy on 13-Sep-2025 at 02:34 PM.

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minator 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 16:28:39
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@ppcamiga1

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some scumbags and idiots try to convice us amiga users to switch from ppc to x86/arm
I see no reasons to use amiga os or it clones on x86/arm as long as they are still on win 98 level


Porting the existing system gives you new hardware and software to use on it. You can then add new features to the OS.

What you're proposing gives you the new OS features but no software to run.

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OneTimer1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 13-Sep-2025 19:42:44
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@threed

Don’t feed the trolls, silence Is the most powerful weapon online.
Nearly everyone has posted his reply to on of those trolling members
repeating the same again and again.

best:
Don't answer, pretend you didn't see it.

2nd
If you believe you must answer use less text than the troll.

3rd
Save your text before posting, post the saved text next time.

The troll must learn he can't annoy people that's why you should not answer people with longer texts.

Extreme trolls can be chased away by posting new threads until the troll posting disappears but this may harm the forum in a long run.

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Hammer 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 0:03:25
#53 ]
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Joined: 9-Mar-2003
Posts: 6690
From: Australia

@cdimauro

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If you're aware, then you continue to be wrong, because a completely frozen 68k processor does NOT require any core for emulating it:
one core is enough for emulating the only running processor (a PowerPC one. Physical or emulated) in the system.

Wrong assumption!

https://www.patreon.com/posts/whats-new-in-v1-137864826
The additional core is still free for other work (EmuPPC maybe?)

My comment factored in Michal Schulz's "The additional core is still free for other work (EmuPPC maybe?)" idea in near verbatim. If YOU want a single CPU usage for Emu68, do it yourself!

Arguments for using the second CPU core are about utilizing the maximum onboard SRAM storage on the SoC.

Atm, Emu68 is using two CPU cores for separate translation and IO workloads. The optional debug feature uses another CPU core.

WarpOS's major improvement is on PowerUP's brain-dead CPU cache flush.

Last edited by Hammer on 14-Sep-2025 at 12:27 AM.
Last edited by Hammer on 14-Sep-2025 at 12:20 AM.
Last edited by Hammer on 14-Sep-2025 at 12:09 AM.

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cdimauro 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 5:33:58
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Posts: 4581
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@Hammer

Quote:

Hammer wrote:
@cdimauro

Quote:
If you're aware, then you continue to be wrong, because a completely frozen 68k processor does NOT require any core for emulating it:
one core is enough for emulating the only running processor (a PowerPC one. Physical or emulated) in the system.

Wrong assumption!

https://www.patreon.com/posts/whats-new-in-v1-137864826
The additional core is still free for other work (EmuPPC maybe?)

Why don't you READ (and understand) what people write? I've already replied it here:
https://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=45587&forum=8&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#881157
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Quote:
My comment factored in Michal Schulz's "The additional core is still free for other work (EmuPPC maybe?)" idea in near verbatim.

You can remove "near": it's verbatim, since you just copy & paste what was written by someone else, and NOT understanding the consequences (which I've tried to explain. Without success, of course).
Quote:
If YOU want a single CPU usage for Emu68, do it yourself!

I've stated SOMETHING DIFFERENT, which you clearly have NOT understood (as usual)!

And now you try to change the context.

You missing nothing...
Quote:
Arguments for using the second CPU core are about utilizing the maximum onboard SRAM storage on the SoC.

Atm, Emu68 is using two CPU cores for separate translation and IO workloads. The optional debug feature uses another CPU core.

Verbatim copy of things just repeated to fill the post...
Quote:
WarpOS's major improvement is on PowerUP's brain-dead CPU cache flush.

?!?

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 5:35:53
#55 ]
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Joined: 23-Aug-2015
Posts: 1141
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@Amiboy

it is your problem that you are stupid and get fooled by szulc
throw away this shit pistorm
use winuae you will get the some for zero euro

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 5:39:34
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stop trolling start working on zune on aros
port it to unix

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michalsc 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 11:33:20
#57 ]
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Joined: 14-Jun-2005
Posts: 475
From: Germany

@OneTimer1

It is hard to ignore especially this troll since he is very quickly going personal. This guy has been banned on many forums, including Polish ones (Polish is his native tongue, although nearly as bad and as unreadable as his English) but finally found a place where moderation is actually dead - amigaworld.net. No matter how often he will violate TOS on this forum, he knows nothing will happen.

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ppcamiga1 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 12:35:04
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@michalsc

szulc stop trolling start working on zune

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kolla 
Re: 68k emulation
Posted on 14-Sep-2025 13:50:08
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Joined: 20-Aug-2003
Posts: 3530
From: Trondheim, Norway

@ppcamiga1

Shut up and buy me a PC!

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