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nicholas 
Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 14:43:57
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@Metalheart

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Metalheart wrote:
>.lha archive please!

Yes, thats how it must be done.

A little OT, but what's that about people archiving stuff twice ?
Like a Tar archive Gz'ed...
'blablabla.tar.gz' ?? Or was it the otherway around ?

Anyone any explanation about this

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gzip can only compress one file. tar converts many files into one with no compression.

So you tar your files into one file, then gzip that file.

Simple eh?

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 14:46:40
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@Metalheart

.tar.gz alias .tgz is not archived twice, "tar" is the archive ,
gz is the compresion used,

to unpack tar.gz under linux you simply type

tar -xvzf file.tgz

unarh used on OS4 is stupid when it comes to .tgz files.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
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gzip can only compress one file. tar converts many files into one with no compression.

So you tar your files into one file, then gzip that file.

Simple eh?

I never knew that!

(Of course, it makes you wonder WHY everyone likes gzip!)

 
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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 15:08:55
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@nicholas

Ah ! Thanks !

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
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@klesterjr

It's a unix/linux standard, tar is original used for backup tapes, and it's not so hard to use under Linux and Unix systems, gui systems like winzip, unarch can't deal whit this. as the file need to decompressed to read the index, you can't get the index of the tar file.

bzip2 gives better compression then gzip,

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
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i would say yes (as it holds new functions and easier to use than older ones in my op) but i would then ask aswell... why on earth havent you upgraded to that one allready?

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 17:03:53
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@Rogue

Rogue, there is a problem with a1ide.device.kmod 51.28, as I describe in the thread "Odd IDE behaviour". Please make sure that this is checked before the release.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 17:22:14
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It's summer, and as long as the weather is nice I don't need the os4 update, so take your time Hyperion. :)

Win2k/WinXp/OsX/Os9/Morphos/Os3.9 works fine for me in the meanwhile.. :)

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 17:33:05
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@amigamagia

Said: Win2k/WinXp/OsX/Os9/Morphos/Os3.9 works fine for me in the meanwhile.. :)

But os4 works even finer!

La magia esta en la Amiga y quando tienes tres o quatro es mejor!
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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
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@mwoof

Well I can tell you us beta testers are up to 51.40 now so I should imagine "Odd IDE behaviour" will be a thing of the past!

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 19:37:21
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@sicky

Ah, I hope so!

How about diskboot.kmod? Will it work on HDs with MBR on them?? I had created the MBR using Linux, due to lack of knowledge with the RDB installation, and I'll have to backup the whole hard disk to safely remove the MBR! Backing up about 8-10 GB on CDs...

At the moment I use diskboot.kmod V50.7 (from pre-release) and my installation is Update 2.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 20:52:47
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@Toaks

"why on earth havent you upgraded to that one all ready?"
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Because some of us are just plain chicken ?

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 20:57:17
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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 29-May-2005 21:14:19
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@Rogue

Thanks for the update.


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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 30-May-2005 14:49:11
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I was advised that if my system was stable I did not need to install the UpDate2. Now that UpDate3 is coming out will I need to install UpDate2 to install Update3?

Personally, I would advise you to move up to update 3 if you are having any issues at all. There are some very tricky problems that have been solved which increase system stability. The devs have been very busy tracking down the more difficult issues now that OS4 is at the final stages. You'll also get all the latest extra features which you'll find out about soon enough.

Waiting for the final release is another option but I think if you are planning a trip to Ottawa anyway, update 3 will be well worth your time and effort. Just make sure to backup everything first and don't rush it.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 30-May-2005 15:19:03
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@mwoof

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diskboot.kmod? Will it work on HDs with MBR on them

Maybe when we'll land on another galaxy but not before that.
MBR is something from the past. OS4 developers don't have time to support such bad design.
Instead of backing up, get another harddisk. Keep Linux on one of them and install OS4 on teh second.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 30-May-2005 16:19:56
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No, Update 3 will be system components only, no firmware update. A firmware update may come laster as well, though, to cope with a few remaining issues in early startup.

Then what is the minimum version of UBoot required to install update 3? Some people may be holding back on updating their firmware so we really should explicitly note that.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 30-May-2005 16:32:34
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@Rogue
I thought I did answer that already. No, you cannot skip Update 2. You should have installed update 2 anyway. Any warning like "if your system is stable" (if it comes from me) always aims at installing firmware updates.

No, Update 3 will be system components only, no firmware update. A firmware update may come laster as well, though, to cope with a few remaining issues in early startup.

Sorry about that. I mistakenly thought A1 firmware March5 was Update2. I guess I lost more brain cells in the sixties than I thought. The question should have been do I need to install the A1 firmware from March5 if the system is stable? It is a G4 XE.
Again my apologies,
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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
Posted on 30-May-2005 16:43:29
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@cope

CMOOON! Updates = good things! Update your ****** firmware and operating system

Updates make system faster, more stable, introduce new features.

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Re: almost end of may os4 update3
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@sicky

Ah, I hope so!

How about diskboot.kmod? Will it work on HDs with MBR on them??
No, it's intentional that diskboot ignores HDs with a MBR, not a bug.

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I had created the MBR using Linux, due to lack of knowledge with the RDB installation, and I'll have to backup the whole hard disk to safely remove the MBR!
AmigaOS will never support MBR, it's too limited. If you now have both a MBR and a RDB on the HD and all partitions in the RDB and you only have to kill the MBR (overwrite the last 4 bytes in sector 0), you don't have to backup everything and reinstall, which wont help anyway unless MediaToolBox kills the MBR.

 
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