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Is Genesi still intrested in Amiga market?
Posted on 7-May-2006 18:19:32
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I, for one, was quite sure that Genesi is not intrested (per se) in Amiga market. We're tiny, almost not existant market. There was also a split on the MorphOS front. But since Genesi restarted some support for MorphOS I've been getting some signals (you can consider me insider in some aspects ) that they are still intrested in something. Today, my RSS machine noticed another, Amiga related blog post. Throw this post at the top, too.

Efika 1200 running OS4? Why the Dell not? Even if all major sales would be rised by Linux crowd, why not let them (The Crowd) to bring price down.

I hope both sides could do some business. When I say both, I mean Hyperion and Genesi, not Genesi and Amiga Inc.

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I, for one, was quite sure that Genesi is not intrested (per se) in Amiga market. We're tiny, almost not existant market. There was also a split on the MorphOS front. But since Genesi restarted some support for MorphOS I've been getting some signals (you can consider me insider in some aspect ) that they are still intrested in something. Today, my RSS machine noticed another, Amiga related blog post. Throw this post at the top, too.

Efika 1200 running OS4? Why the Dell not?

I hope both sides could do some business. When I say both, I mean Hyperion and Genesi, not Genesi and Amiga Inc.


Genesi are interested in that its hardware run as many OSs as is possible, the most the merrier

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@opi

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I hope both sides could do some business. When I say both, I mean Hyperion and Genesi, not Genesi and Amiga Inc.


Thats your words right ?, i consider hyperion sidetracking Amiga Inc. and working Genesi instead very unlikely.

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...and, the Judgement and the lawsuit are not either.


These are bill´s word or FUD actually.

Edit: added text

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These are bill´s word or FUD actually.


That's why I said Hyperion and Genesi, not Amiga Inc. I think we all know that Amiga Inc is "something in the way" as Kurt from Nirvana would sing in his cover.

To be honest, I don't recall how this court case ended? Was AI ordered to port AmigaDEad to Pegasos or not?

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To be honest, I don't recall how this court case ended? Was AI ordered to port AmigaDEad to Pegasos or not?


I don´t know but surely that the court case was the cause of the change the name to AmigaAnywhere and the "obscure?" strategy of create a company (kmos) that bought Amiga inc and renames themselves Amiga inc

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@opi

I bloody forgot to write a full line.

Afair Genesi got the license to use AmigaDE, but they wanted use of OS 4 too which they didnt.

Whatever the facts is, this will start the red blue war all over again.

And noone will win in the end.

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@opi

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"The PC revolution is over ...
the computer revolution is not - Amiga"

"... and, the Judgement and the lawsuit are not either.

Gentleman, watch your lanes! Engage targets at will. - Raquel and Bill"


Eeeeeer, could someone please shed some light on this. I'm thinking of a Genesi = Owner of Amiga IP / OS4 scenario here..


Maybe we'll finally get some smegin' hardware for OS4 *run*



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Dont know how it will go with the IP / OS 4.

Most likely be alot of trolling fudding and so on again

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...and, the Judgement and the lawsuit are not either.


all I can say is not again!

It should be never again, but thats up to the amiga community.

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Eeeeeer, could someone please shed some light on this.


Did you already read this thread?

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Genesi are interested in that its hardware run as many OSs as is possible, the most the merrier


... even if they have to take the OS by force. Yep, it's BBRV all right.

Do we have to start this crap all over again?

[edit] I must say, at this stage I don't care who owns what any more. But if we get into another full-scale RvB mess, the "victor" will get to sell stuff to... a bunch of trolls with no intent to buy or write anything, because all the sane people will have left.

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Do we have to start this crap all over again?

If BBRV start stirring again, then the answer is probably yes

It seems that they like to periodically raise the OS4 issue (something close to their heart, even if not a sensible business decision), although I doubt that their intentions are entirely virtuous...

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Well, as I said, I don't care who owns what any more. Heck, given the amount of sheer enthusiasm promoting the platform we're seeing from Amiga Inc, we might even be better off with Genesi at the wheel.

What cannot happen is another mess like we had a couple years ago. I doubt the combined community will recover from that.

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Do we have to start this crap all over again?


No and hopefully very few will, acually none would be nice.

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@opi

It seems the blog is down for the moment.

Anyway if Genesi would provide a cheap piece of hardware that would run OS4 I would buy it. I think at this stage you can't be picky on who is delivering hardware. Just having hardware is a miracle on it's own.

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Look at shoes qoute.

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Amiga Inc. or Genesi running the show. Let's say Genesi would run the show and 98% would hate their guts. If they get things done who cares?

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Amiga Inc. or Genesi running the show. Let's say Genesi would run the show and 98% would hate their guts. If they get things done who cares?


Exactly. And they would still be the better choice when 99% would hate Amiga Inc. guts.

Anyway, I don't care about any political BS either as soon as things "get done". Even if I would have to buy the hardware from Satan himself.

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Posted on 7-May-2006 20:02:23
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Yep. Amiga Inc has totally dropped the ball. If Genesi picks it up, more power to them. In fact, if Genesi manages to work things out, so that Hyperion's OS4 will run in a legal and supported way on their hardware, I would buy one of their boards (and keep on buying upgrades from them) - everything else is water under the bridge.

Amiga partners, as far as I'm concerned the ball is now on your court. Hopefully this will light a fire under a certain company's butt and force a response.

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@opi

This blog looked more like about machine type: small, fast enough for most tasks with responsive OS, well integrated, cool and quiet.

To those about lawsuit:

Just stop spreading FUD. The contract was for AmigaDE licence, but at the time AmigaDE=AmigaOS. Remember that AInc declared "AmigaOS is dead!" ? This lawsuit mostly was about shutting AInc and some people up, because they didn't stop spouting "MorphOS is illegal" crap. All of this now is irrelevant.

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