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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
Posted on 31-Oct-2007 17:42:17
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That might where well be

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
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Lalala

( i removed this because it was meant for his PMail) I accidentally posted it here.

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
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Maybe that is what the announcement is going to be about? Bill is going to sell Amiga Inc to DiscreetFX. I like it.

If only they would complete the final touches on that announcement.

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
Posted on 31-Oct-2007 18:03:34
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linnar wrote:
@fairlanefastback

Thank You for the link!


"P.S. No reply to our discussion on revenue (that you started)? "
- I don't understand all in the message and I have not time to
read it with translater.

Maybe I have wrong, maybe not. But it is not importent. The importent is
something to make money with and AA or better AA2 is the thing to
make money. OS or/and computer is not good product's to make money.
It's importent that Amiga Inc delevery clear money to the owner. Only
than Amiga Inc is realy free to do something better.



Well if you have no time for the discussion I'm not sure what to say beyond I suppose, "Adios!"?

In regard to your latest shift here (seeming to just suit your current new arguement), you previously said that AA is earning Amiga millions per year already, you even described it as a goldmine. And Bill himself already says OS5 is ahead of schedule and shaping up to be better than OSX, * ALREADY *. So have they been making millions per year on AA like you said earlier when that suited the direction you were going in, or are they not earning much on it yet, but need to concentrate on it for its supposedly greater potential to deliver "clear money to the owner. Only than Amiga is realy free to do something better." (I.E. OS5/desktop)

And lets not forget the MorphOS team dosen't have millions, the AROS bounty system is not for millions. But they can both show us screenshots. Yet Amiga can not (or will not). This is not an odd demand for them to establish credibility.

And also, the community dosen't want AA or AA2. They want OS4 and/or OS5 (possibly on OS5 since little is known). So if OS5 is ahead of schedule, screenshots please. Plus since they are adimitting to having a schedule then, what the schedule for release (at least tentatively?).

Also please tell us who uses AA that it would be generating *recurring* income each year of the scale you said each and every year.

Again if you are too busy suddenly (perhaps you really are), well then, again, "adios!, & farewell".

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
Posted on 31-Oct-2007 18:21:14
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@fairlanefastback

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Moderation is much heavier (IMO), its more pro Amiga Inc. in general (IMO), though even there some voices of dissent are starting to show.


Where do you get this false information from?

The site is full people that use AmigaOS4 every day on there AmigaOne’s thanks to Hyperion and Eyetech, not Amiga Inc, most people on that site just won’t Hyperion to win, and mess to cleaned as quickly as possible,

NO SITE I KNOW IS PRO AMIGA INC!

AMIGA INC HAS ANNOUNCED TO MANY THINGS, WHIT DOING ANY THING, NO ONE BELIEVE WHAT AMIGA INC HAS TO SAY, NOT ON AMIGA.ORG, NOT ON AMIGAWORLD.NET NOT ON AMIGANS.NET, AMIGA INC IS JOKE ON OSNEWS.


I clearly stated "more pro Amiga Inc." and that "even there some voices of dissent are starting to show". Lets face it, linnar can have a much happier conversation about the great things Amiga Inc. is doing with Billsey over there, for example. Even Amigaworld.net shows a nod of support to Amiga, Inc. by provided content for Amiga.com Its just a matter of my personal opinion that overall Amigans.net has the most pro Amiga Inc. atmosphere. Also linnar wanted more moderation to keep back "the mob". He would certainly get that there. So I am not saying they are flying an Amiga, Inc. flag. But for forum users who are, its the most friendly place for them I think.

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
Posted on 31-Oct-2007 18:29:02
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@fairlanefastback

I think there is more Amiga Inc support on this site,

If a pro Amiga Inc supporter joined Amigans.net I he is going to be where disappointed about people attitudes over there as well.

People as drawing a line between the people how do stuff, and the people that say they are going to do stuff, besides that where few where ever interested in the Amiga DE stuff.

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
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@NutsAboutAmiga

I respect your opinion. I've named one poster over there already as an example. I don't want to go too OT from this thread. Its merely my opinion its more what linnar might be looking for is all, thats up to him. Frankly I'm hoping he will take the time to post some further responses in this thread, on this board.

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
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@NutsAboutAmiga

I don't think that Tigger is an Amiga Inc fan, just that he believes that Hyperion are clearly in the wrong with regard to the current dispute.

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@linnar who said Quote:
"they only sell some old Amiga 500 games for Windows"
- This "only" games give Amiga Inc 1,7milj$ in 2005.
This game come to give Amiga Inc more money than OS can do for ever.
The "AA-crap" is worth milljons of $ every year. It's a realy goldmarket!

I really don't believe this, particularly in light of the fact that (as far as I recall) a few years ago Bill McEwan told a court that they made almost nothing on selling AA games (and had $100 in the bank). Given the very few additional content added to the web site in all those years, I find it hard to believe that they are raking millions of $$$ in. And do you really think that crossword puzzles make them millions?!?

And as Fairlanefastback has pointed out, that single quote of $1.6 million was an ESTIMATE not a fact.

If you have proof of what you say, I would gladly see it.

edit: P.S. If you find that this thread is a "mob", it is perhaps because you are saying things which most people here find outragous (= unbelievable). You could also try going to a Conservative meeting & saying that Labour is doing great. Or going to an Apple Mac forum, and saying that Steve Jobs should be fired. Or going onto an Amiga forum and saying that Amiga Inc has been doing great things for the past 6 years

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Re: Message from Bill McEwen
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I think there is more Amiga Inc support on this site,

I know at least tow “Tiger”,"linnar" is Amiga Inc fan, I don’t know of any one at Amigans.net



I'm not an AI fan at all as I've explained to you several times.
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Anyone from Amigans here, please report to the SYS Admin, I've heard their
Member Subscribe doesn't work.

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@ChrisH

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I really don't believe this, particularly in light of the fact that (as far as I recall) a few years ago Bill McEwan told a court that they made almost nothing on selling AA games (and had $100 in the bank). Given the very few additional content added to the web site in all those years, I find it hard to believe that they are raking millions of $$$ in. And do you really think that crossword puzzles make them millions?!?


I would think they make a bit of money from the resellers of those AA games. resellers Including: Handango, ClickGamer, disk2go, U3

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@Bit7

they may made some money with handango while they had a special promotion, giving away a motorcycle. somebody remembers that?

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@fairlanefastback

so lets see, as well as giving my name, aswell as others to be supportive of something you gave no evidence on, you go on to promote amigans as pro amiga inc (doesnt matter how much more or less you still say pro amiga inc) and have a go at billsey as well.

are you quite happy just slinging the mud about and see what sticks, or are you just going to stick to the facts and not post lies / innuendo / whatever about others?

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so lets see, as well as giving my name, aswell as others to be supportive of something you gave no evidence on, you go on to promote amigans as pro amiga inc (doesnt matter how much more or less you still say pro amiga inc) and have a go at billsey as well.

are you quite happy just slinging the mud about and see what sticks, or are you just going to stick to the facts and not post lies / innuendo / whatever about others?


What mud? Someone told linnar that no one else defends/believes Amiga Inc anymore. Thats certainly not the case. He is not the only one who does. I also said that people each individually would likely have their own caveats (which are qualifications or exemptions) but that there are people in my opinion who defend Amiga Inc. For me to give some examples in my own personal estimation, I hardly see how thats an insult to anyone, especially when its to the point where linnar is expressing feelings that a mob was closing in around him where he publically mused if moderaters were part of some such mob, standing by idlely.

As for my qualification of "more" being meaningless to you, it wasn't to me, you can remove the meaning of it if you wish for yourself, thats your perogative, but it won't magically change what I meant.

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Quote:
it's a "law".


if it was a law then there would be a lot of companies in jail.


trash talk


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Quote:
Moderation is much heavier (IMO), its more pro Amiga Inc. in general (IMO), though even there some voices of dissent are starting to show.


Where do you get this false information from?


Exactly my point.

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..or the modertor is mob member?!


What 'mob'???????

If we, as 'modertors' (sic,) are to be accused of something, we would like to know the details, please.

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