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Poll : interested by a netbook/notebook running AmigaOS?
Yes, I'll buy one with these specs
No, I don't need mobile AmigaOS
 
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Hisoka999 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 9:53:33
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@thread

I'm interessed in stuff like that, but not that configuration. A netbook would be a nice second pc for me, but I won't pay 800-900/$ for it. Sorry I would rather try an eeePC or so with AROS.

Very importend stuff for a netbook/notebook
* good mobile battery support
* full wifi supprt(with wep and wpa) and a ui


Without wlan a notebook is totally unusable for me so it must be there. So AROS or AmigaOS or MorphOS must support that.

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Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 17:51:04
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@all

I think this is about the only big endian netbook:
http://www.osnews.com/story/21530


So far the easiest to port AOS on to?

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Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 17:58:48
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@Troels

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Please take your advertising to an appropriate thread (or buy some banner ad's)?


Please do me the courtesy of reading the messages before assuming it is an advert.

The second message simply stated that I could suggest a scenario that would get AmigaOS4 users a laptop but did not believe they would take it up.

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Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 17:59:10
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@elwood

I'd buy one with those specs, but not at that price. That's $1100-1300 US. I'd have to be rich and/or crazy, and I'm neither.

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bison 
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Posted on 9-Jan-2010 18:14:00
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@Amiga_3k

Quote:

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@Kronos

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Notebooks are far harder to built than a desktop-mobo as their are no predifined standards for cases, batteries and such.


It still puzzles me why there is no 'standard' laptop-case to house, say, an off the shelf mini-itx board. It should open heaps of possibilities I think.

I'd like to see a "standard" for small motherboards that fit in a keyboard case. Something small like a C64; not big like the A500.

This could be done with a microATX board, but they generally have ports on three or four sides. A form factor with all the ports along the back and the right side would be nice.

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Zylesea 
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Posted on 9-Jan-2010 18:19:59
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@KimmoK

Speaking of Netbooks, there is also the limebook - but nobody really knows iwhat's its current state. Plus, the 5121 is really low end (but so is the AMMC440). But it is a small ppc netbook, which could be a nice and rather cheap toy.

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davebraco 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 19:04:10
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@elwood

I'm very interested in a OS4 mobile solution. 800euro maximum for these specifications (I presume we have to add the OS4 licence).

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Moxee 
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Posted on 9-Jan-2010 19:04:40
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@thread

Quote:

Quote:
Please take your advertising to an appropriate thread (or buy some banner ad's)?


Please do me the courtesy of reading the messages before assuming it is an advert.

The second message simply stated that I could suggest a scenario that would get AmigaOS4 users a laptop but did not believe they would take it up.


OK folks, there have been a couple of members wandering OT in this thread. None of which seem evil in intent to me.

BUT the topic is about "AmigaOS notebook" so, let's not wander too far off course please.

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clusteruk 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 21:46:55
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@Moxee

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OK folks, there have been a couple of members wandering OT in this thread. None of which seem evil in intent to me.


Sorry I believe I was offering to make a point of how to get an AmigaOS4 laptop which the thread is about. I admit I mentioned Aros originally once, but want to see how serious people are about getting the magical Amiga laptop.

Whilst I would not be involoved, it could be done on a batch of say 250 units at under 1000 each, not much under, but under. However, that is based on the spec that was mentioned and a hundred have agreed. However, anybody who believes they can get a new laptop designed and manufactured for a tiny run for 4-500 euros should be looking elsewhere unfortunately.


Last edited by clusteruk on 09-Jan-2010 at 09:49 PM.

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Moxee 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 9-Jan-2010 22:13:56
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@clusteruk

No, I don't think your posting was evil, so to speak. I am pretty easy going.

I mainly wanted to stop an argument or insult fest which looked like to me was starting.

But, I seem to have the Kiss of Death in many threads where I post. They die soon after. I am not sure what that says.

Please continue this thread.

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BinoX 
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Posted on 9-Jan-2010 23:08:25
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@Moxee

It's all gone quiet in here now :p lol... Only joking.

What nees to be done (imo) is a simple laptop. i.e. negotiate buying a bulk load of LimePC motherboards, screens, batteries, etc and getting a set of AmigaOne style cases made up for them... probably looking at around 400-500 euros if that could be managed. Otherwise you are looking at a very high priced machine

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Troels 
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@clusteruk

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@all How would you feel about a fully supported laptop that runs Aros and can synchronise with AmigaOS4 in either SAM or X1000. Would cost say 299 euros, and run all 68k software.


Can't get much closer to an advert than that! When the starter of the thread already had to tell people once that this was about a possible AmigaOS laptop it is disrespectful to hijack the thread to market AROS like this. I like AmigaOS4 (and AROS) but I wouldn't begin to talk about AmigaOS in an AROS thread the way you do here.

And I wasn't talking about your second post, just the initial one I quoted here.

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Moxee 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 11-Jan-2010 20:35:56
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@BinoX

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@Moxee

It's all gone quiet in here now :p lol...


The thread died. It's The Kiss of Death I tell you.

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gerograph 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 11-Jan-2010 21:30:35
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@elwood

I voted yes... I paid a 1000 Euros for SAM in a Psile Case.. why not get rid of that one, and replace it with an Amiga Notebook. About the same specs... and the same price + max 200 Euros.

I think a good selling point would be, to have a efficient and small working Linux out of the box thing on it. So that I can do some offices work as well..., means:

Not as sluggish as nowdays on SAM (even gart enabled Debian + KDE or XFCE whatever) gives a poor performance at least for scrolling in Calc tables etc...
Practically I would never use SAM for my Excel Business purposes, its to slow, tables are to big...

Basically it is all a matter of available + usable soft either on Linux or better on OS4.x

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billt 
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Posted on 11-Jan-2010 22:16:43
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Yeah, if we could get an PPC => x86 abstraction layer


There is such a thing. But you need to think modular, which will consume space. There are already industry standard module definitions that have x86 (Core, Core2, Atom, Turion), PowerPC, etc. implementations. Already done. Today. That's what I'd try to do, and if I ever do anything that's what it would be. But they tend to be expensive. :(

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Flystone 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 12-Jan-2010 7:06:25
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@elwood

immediately!!!!

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clusteruk 
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Posted on 12-Jan-2010 7:42:55
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@Troels

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Can't get much closer to an advert than that! When the starter of the thread already had to tell people once that this was about a possible AmigaOS laptop it is disrespectful to hijack the thread to market AROS like this. I like AmigaOS4 (and AROS) but I wouldn't begin to talk about AmigaOS in an AROS thread the way you do here.


I DO NOT sell them, do you see them on my site for sale?

EDIT: I write document management software for a good living, Amiga is just a hobby and I make no money from it, just spend my beer money on Amiga development.

My point was you can buy a netbook for that price that will run Aros and all 68k software, that is all. I am just trying to facilitate an Amiga netbook experience by paying for drivers and hope people will press a donate button for that.

I hear people banging on about Amiga Laptop this, Amiga laptop that, I have heard it for 20 years. It is possible but would be expensive and a small production run, and then Amigan's would just moan they don't like the colour, or would buy it if the screen was an inch bigger.

Right now you are up to 129, if you get to 250 who will put there money down you could have one. But don't moan at me because I give people a cheaper, viable and available now alternative.

I am giving both real option, not just talking about it and dreaming.

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elwood 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 12-Jan-2010 20:14:19
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@clusteruk

Fair enough.
But you seem to think an OS4 laptop can't be done. I tend to disagree.
We'll see if 2010 is really a good year for AmigaOS

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Hisoka999 
Re: [Poll] AmigaOS notebook, anyone?
Posted on 12-Jan-2010 20:39:14
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@elwood

I don't think that it could not be done but i hardly beleave that it would sell good. You can get a good business notebook(a thinkpad) nowadays for around 1500$/1050. It is hard to beleave that an amiga Notebook would sell good even with an pre installed linux like ubuntu. I think you could sell a netbook type ppc notebook a lot easier since it does not need a preinstalled windows. But it must be in the normal price range of 300 to 600.


A netbook with a preinstalled and a bit better amigaOS4 could be sold. But the software and the ui would need a lot work. (the most users use a netbook for websurfing and listening music and that is possible with amigaos4(except flash and java))

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Troels 
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Posted on 12-Jan-2010 20:48:06
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@clusteruk
The proposal of an AmigaOS laptop sounds interesting and I would actually prefer a (even low spec.) laptop over the XA1000. I know it would be expensive and I am not sure you could find enough amigans that were willing to pay such an amount for the possible specs?

I still see your post as a an advert for AROS which don't belong to this thread. Don't get me wrong I like AROS as well I'm just asking you to respect the starter of the thread.

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