And besides, the sam440ep U-Boot sources are always available. What's so special about the AmigaOne U-Boot sources that warrants hiding them?

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@Trev

I can think of a few things. Hyperion have worked on this for several years, not finding a fix. What would happen if you found it?

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@zerohero

If there's anything to fix, it will be fixed collaboratively and openly. In the unlikely event that I actually fix something, I'll do a happy dance and buy myself an ice cream.

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@Trev

Yes, but lets play with that thought for a while. Just hypothetically speaking. If you fix it, and do that happy dance while eating ice cream, it would leave a small dent in the previous UBoot developers facade. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

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@zerohero

If that's the case--I'm not saying that it is--one hopes the previous developers would have the integrity to admit their failings and move forward. At the very least, supporting evidence should be made available. Some of the parties involved no longer exist, so where's the harm? I could take this into new territory, but I won't. We're all hobbyists and professionals just trying to have some fun, after all.

EDIT: That said, I think it's time to spend a few hours roaming the Capital Wasteland. Dog Meat misses me, and my rifle skills are getting rusty.

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@Trev

Still hypothetically speaking, I would take into account the years of badgering from ann.lu and moobunny.

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EDIT: That said, I think it's time to spend a few hours roaming the Capital Wasteland. Dog Meat misses me, and my rifle skills are getting rusty.

I was just about to recruit the original Dog Meat. Haven't tried F3 yet. Don't have a computer that could handle it anyway.

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@Trev

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If that's the case--I'm not saying that it is--one hopes the previous developers would have the integrity to admit their failings and move forward.

Well, the EGO does matter, and is a big factor to consider.

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I guess you would have to use a CPU on chip debugger (like the BDI2000) to find that code.

I have a Guardian SE from etoolsmiths, same thing. Maybe I'll have to dig it out and finally learn how to use it.

But we might find some clues in the uboot source as well.

I don't want to copy or rip or anything, I just want to jump to the correct place for whatever is needed. Nor do I want to debate idealogical philosophy about various licenses. Let's just figure out how to get something done, and work on doing it.

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@number6

Cross bridge scanning is exactly what I myself want added to our uboot.

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@tomazkid

Sad, if true.

@all

Still looking for a legitimate source for "Articia S Data Book version 1.0.5." Did MAI's assets go to a specific lien holder, or did the IP revert to the designers?

The other specifications are all quite easy to find.

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@billt

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Cross bridge scanning is exactly what I myself want added to our uboot.

It's apparent that the few posters in this thread are reading all of the other posters' comments. THAT is a big positive in my book.

Just noticed in your post#1:
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it's now hosted by Denx

and surprise? at
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The history shows activity in there up to Oct 2009!

Since Denx is Acube partner, this could be because there was consultation prior to the newest SAM uboot. (just a theory)

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@Trev

If it's worth your asking, it's worth your dropping a line to Adam Kowalczyk and asking if he is willing to contribute.

#6

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@number6

I've asked Adam for something in the past (Mediator specific Linux code) and was ignored, but I'll try again.

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@Trev

Regarding the bouncing emails at hyperion.biz, try with email to Rogue instead, his email works.

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@Trev

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I've asked Adam for something in the past (Mediator specific Linux code) and was ignored, but I'll try again.

Just a thought..to save you re-explaining.
Send him the links to this thread, as well as the thread that spawned this thread. It might help background-wise.

He is alive btw.

#6

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@zerohero

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zerohero wrote: @Trev Yes, but lets play with that thought for a while. Just hypothetically speaking. If you fix it, and do that happy dance while eating ice cream, it would leave a small dent in the previous UBoot developers facade. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

Developers come and go and we're all deeply grateful for their efforts!

Maybe the problems were not possible to fix in the A1's U-boot version. On the other side U-boot has seen a lot of rework in the meantime. Who knows, if this problems couldn't be fixed easily now?

I would like to see this issue resolved. Everbody wins, if normal users can work on the A1 U-boot code. Hyperion could concentrate on OS4 (without being bothered all the time to do an U-boot update) and we could fix and integrate new features into U-boot.

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@Geri

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I would like to see this issue resolved. Everbody wins, if normal users can work on the A1 U-boot code. Hyperion could concentrate on OS4 (without being bothered all the time to do an U-boot update) and we could fix and integrate new features into U-boot.

I don't know how they feel about this at present, but in 2004, after Eyetech gave an initial explanation, Thomas said:

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I don't have the time to do it myself, but if somebody wants to tackle it, I'll help out.

source

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zerohero wrote: @Trev Yes, but lets play with that thought for a while. Just hypothetically speaking. If you fix it, and do that happy dance while eating ice cream, it would leave a small dent in the previous UBoot developers facade. Hypothetically speaking, of course.

If you spent days searching for a needle in a haystack, and then someone else came along and found it, would it really be embarrassing? I don't think so; that person would have taken advantage of the fact that he/she knew where you had looked previously, and also got lucky that he/she started looking in the right area.

So it is with problems like this where the solution (if it exists) could be something simple but, would still be one of thousands of possible simple things. Remember how the audio hardware was declared non-functional, and the AC'97 codec removed from the board, only to have someone discover years later that it was due to the power saving hardware in the VIA chip having the audio switched off? That doesn't reflect badly on the people who tried to get it working previously.

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billt wrote: @Geri I have a Guardian SE from etoolsmiths, same thing. Maybe I'll have to dig it out and finally learn how to use it.

Cool! How much does this device cost?

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But we might find some clues in the uboot source as well. I don't want to copy or rip or anything, I just want to jump to the correct place for whatever is needed. Nor do I want to debate idealogical philosophy about various licenses. Let's just figure out how to get something done, and work on doing it.

Absolutely agree! Count me in, if we get the possiblity to work on the A1 U-boot.

If you're interested, then I can redesign my DualUboot PCB for the microA1 and build it up. It may not be cheap (the PLCC plug in sockets are a little bit expensive here - around 30¤), but it would be a good starting point.

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@number6

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number6 wrote: @Geri I don't know how they feel about this at present, but in 2004, after Eyetech gave an initial explanation, Thomas said: Quote: I don't have the time to do it myself, but if somebody wants to tackle it, I'll help out. source #6

Even better! I already asked Rogue in this thread, if it would be possible for Hyperion to automate the process of building the A1 U-boot firmware and putting the images on their website. IMHO the time needed to setup this would be well-invested.

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