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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 14-Dec-2012 21:35:30
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And yes ubuntu has made a mess of its interface as well. Have now started to look at linux mint. |
I'm using Linux Mint 13 LTS and I'm really happy with it.
Ubuntu 12.10 is a bit wobbly, so I decided to pass on Mint 14 and wait for Mint 15. In the mean time I'm using the Mint 14 backports that are available for Mint 13.
Nadia backports available in Linux Mint 13
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 14-Dec-2012 21:53:33
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 1:13:06
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I haven't tried CrunchBang, but Openbox is a really excellent window manager, so I can see why you like it.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 2:49:25
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Well that's one thing any version of winblows has never done ( multitask )..
youuuul sstilllll hhhhavve ttttoo waaaiiiittt aageees ffffor yyyouurrr wwwwinndoow toooo ooopppeeeen iffff ittt'ssssss dooooooooing sssssssomthing eeelsse. Annnddddd tthhhee mooouuuussssssee pppoiiiiinttter wwwwiiillllll sssstutteerrrrr aaaal tttheeeeeeeee tttttimeeeeee.........
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I suggest you try a version of windows post-98. Anything will do. 2000, XP, Vista even (not ME, that doesn't count).
These issues really... really haven't existed for a long time; so long as you're using adequate hardware, obviously. |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 10:17:52
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CrunchBang is based on the stable Debian release, think it's squeeze, and I like it because it also means it's not lumbered down with all the crap that comes with Ubuntu and Mint. My average RAM load is 200 - 300mb and reaching 500mb if I am doing something with gimp. I have yet to go past 1gb lol.
And yeah OpenBox is becoming my new best friend ;) _________________ My personal blog - CritAnime.com
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 11:08:40
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www.aeros-os.org uses openbox too _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 11:57:16
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| Every single Windows OS out there slows to a crawl as soon as you start doing more than one thing with the hard disk. That's why SSDs speed things up massively. Windows 7 is just as bad as Win 95 when it comes to hard disk activity. When I boot my Win 7 machine I have to wait until absolutely everything is loaded up and the hard disk light turns off (about 5 minutes) before I can launch other stuff, otherwise it just bogs down entirely. The problem isn't Windows itself, the problem is that Windows software is so bloated and reliant on disk access (e.g. Registry) that it's almost impossible to do anything without it accessing the HDD in some way or another.
Luckily I just bought an SSD so that should help massively! |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 12:03:47
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 15:12:33
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I stuck with Ubuntu.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 16:53:04
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:05:05
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Thanks for the link. I didn't know about AEROS — I'll have to give it a spin. I've never been able to run AROS — it doesn't seem to like any of my hardware, but maybe this will work.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:06:57
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I could never get used to Unity's global menu bar. It made sense in 1985 when screens were much smaller, but nowadays it's just too much racing around with the mouse.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:20:25
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Well that's one thing any version of winblows has never done ( multitask )..
youuuul sstilllll hhhhavve ttttoo waaaiiiittt aageees ffffor yyyouurrr wwwwinndoow toooo ooopppeeeen iffff ittt'ssssss dooooooooing sssssssomthing eeelsse. Annnddddd tthhhee mooouuuussssssee pppoiiiiinttter wwwwiiillllll sssstutteerrrrr aaaal tttheeeeeeeee tttttimeeeeee.........
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I suggest you try a version of windows post-98. Anything will do. 2000, XP, Vista even (not ME, that doesn't count).
These issues really... really haven't existed for a long time; so long as you're using adequate hardware, obviously.
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Fast adequate hardware yes because Windows doesn't multitask. It is speed which makes it appear to multitask. I've been under the impression for years that Windows does what is called Task Switching. The faster the hardware the more it appears to multitask. Thus the race for faster hardware. Unless something has changed recently it is still that way.
Someone show this uneducated fool how far behind the times I am. _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:30:23
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| @Moxee Afaik Windows have had preemptive multitasking since NT and anything based on NT kernel like win2000-windows8. |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:34:18
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| @bison Let me now your thoughts ; ) I had a break for some month to fill batteries. Will update Broadway and AEROS now (x86 and ARM).
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 19:37:47
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E-gads! _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 22:29:04
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16bit Windows cooperatively multitasked - aka task switching. When Windows moved to 32 they changed to enable preemptive multitasking. Like the Amiga we all know and love. Windows NT4.x and it's derivatives such as Windows 7 and 8 along with Server OSes all preemptively multitask. 64 bit windows do not support 16 bit applications so task switching is gone. MacOS9x and prior also cooperatively multitasked. Moving to the BSD core in OSX moved the Apples into a preemptive multitasking.
@Moxee you are asking how far behind the times you are? NT4.0 came out in 1996. OSX was released in 1999. So you're somewhere around 12-16 years behind the times. |
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 15-Dec-2012 22:47:08
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| I have Vista and Directory Opus.
Then Installed a really fast NVidia that actually runs the computer (games).
Is there any sense to put Win7/8 to a one core machine.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 16-Dec-2012 0:01:05
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You said you were running Vista. You could think of Win7 as Vista with a good service pack. And you would be close to the truth.
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Re: Windows 8 Posted on 16-Dec-2012 0:25:52
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@Moxee you are asking how far behind the times you are? NT4.0 came out in 1996. OSX was released in 1999. So you're somewhere around 12-16 years behind the times.
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Thanks for all that info. I guess the fall of Commodore really effected me. Ever since I haven't been as interested in keeping up._________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong. |
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