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xeno74 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 6-Jan-2014 20:48:58
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Spectre660 has released the RC7 of the Linux Kernel 3.13 for the Sams.

Downloads: http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2174&p=24344#p24344

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Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 6-Jan-2014 21:57:44
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@Spectre660

About the "removed Parthenope", it's probably the partitioning that installed MBR on my HD because I checked what it was there with MediaToolbox and it said "no boot loader installed".


But more important, I see that the embedded SATA controller is not supported. Maybe this is something that need to be added in the kernel. Can you check in the kernel branch if Applied Micro 460ex SATA is supported?
I found this that could be interesting.

Thanks.

Ah yes, another less important one
When doing "halt", the 460 doesn't stop itself but it can. See the poff command. Sources are included.

Last edited by elwood on 06-Jan-2014 at 09:59 PM.

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Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 6-Jan-2014 22:31:59
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@elwood

I have never encountered the Pathenope removal and I have done quite a few installs
on two different model machines. I use the option use largest contiguous free space . so It Is possible that one of the other options causes this. If so its is a Linux PPC installer thing.

I removed the onboard SATA support because the kernel would not boot when I had the PCIex1 slot enable but no card installed. Scared the hell out of me when I first encountered this ...

I am not a coder so I have to leave anything outside of the standard kernel compiles and the Installers to someone else .Maybe javierdlr/jabirulo as he has done some work with the code under AmigaOS 4.1 .

Maybe Acube could reach out to the Linux PPC maintainers again as we have caught up a bit with the main stream .
Also do you know any one with a Sam440ep-itx mode who could test the latest Ubuntu 14.04 and some one with a Flex model and Radeon 9250. My 9250 is busted and I have not heard any feed back on the colour problems reported previously .

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@Spectre660

About the "removed Parthenope", it's probably the partitioning that installed MBR on my HD because I checked what it was there with MediaToolbox and it said "no boot loader installed".

I am not a coder so I have to leave anything outside of the standard kernel compiles and the Installers to someone else .


But more important, I see that the embedded SATA controller is not supported. Maybe this is something that need to be added in the kernel. Can you check in the kernel branch if Applied Micro 460ex SATA is supported?
I found this that could be interesting.

Thanks.

Ah yes, another less important one
When doing "halt", the 460 doesn't stop itself but it can. See the poff command. Sources are included.

Last edited by Spectre660 on 06-Jan-2014 at 10:39 PM.
Last edited by Spectre660 on 06-Jan-2014 at 10:34 PM.

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xeno74 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 16-Jan-2014 10:26:30
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Spectre660 has released the RC8 of the Linux Kernel 3.13 for the Sams.

Downloads:

Sam440ep-3.13-rc8.tar.gz

Sam460ex-3.13-rc8.tar.gz

Spectre660 has also released some updated Debian Wheezy net installer with Kernel 3.13-rc7 (Version 2) for the Sams.

Downloads:

Debian_Wheezy_Sam4440ep_Netinstall-2.iso

Debian_Wheezy_Sam4460ex_Netinstall-2.iso

Support forum for Linux on Sams: http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewforum.php?f=52

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Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
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Spectre660 has released the MPlayer SVN-r34540-4.6 for Sam4x0 systems: http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2201&p=24628#p24628

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Spectre660 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
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@xeno74

Thanks again for hosting.

In windowed mode Linux Mplayer on Sam460ex is quite capable.
Not as good as DVplay in AmigaOS 4.1 full screen.
This show the great work on Amiga OS4.1 by Hans,Cobra and OS4.1 team .

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xeno74 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 25-Jan-2014 13:46:20
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Hi All,

I have some bad news for you.

Spectre660 has ended his support for the Sams.

Quote Spectre660:

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@Xeno74 Thank you for your support but it is time for me to move on. The thread on Amigans.net (http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6332&forum=10) showed me the light.


He has deleted all Linux downloads, posts, and screenshots in the Hyperion forum.

@Spectre660: You have done a lot of very good work for us. Sorry about this. I'm so sorry.

- Christian

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kyle 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 25-Jan-2014 14:01:02
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@xeno74

t's a really sad news

Thanks for all your work Spectre660

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Gazelle 
Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 25-Jan-2014 14:33:12
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@xeno74

I think it's an overreaction of Spectre660. Amigans.net is (and was) always primarily about AmigaOS 4 and nothing else. So, if a user at Amigans.net moans about "Linux News" on the "AmigaOS support forum" it shouldn't be a surprise at all.

That's what the "Amiga PPC Linux" forum at amigaworld is for.

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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 14:57:35
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This is a sad news really ..
Why stop support just for a complaints of someone ? ..

I hope it is not a final decision :-/

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Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 25-Jan-2014 15:00:33
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@Gazelle

I just removed what people were not happy with and
For fun I am going to respond by just using my choice of quotations from that thread .
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Quote:

I do not like moaning or ranting, but sometimes I do get a little irked.
It gets on my nerves too. So much so, I don't bother with it any more.
I even feel annoyed by those linux threads lately on amigans there.
Seriously, if any of us want linux, we for sure will be not here, there is much more professional forums about all sort of unixes.
For me, after a year away I logged in there, clicked on unread posts and was shocked at the imbalance between Linux and Amiga.
My beef, is the fact that the Hyperion AmigaOS support forum seems to be littered with Linux news. Now I feel the clue is in the name, "Hyperion" and AmigaOS". Neither of which have anything to do with Linux, so why is it even there?. If these stalwarts want to promote Linux for whatever machine, why not do it on a Linux forum?, the HYPERION AMIGAOS support forum is surely not the place for it...
So when I see in Amiga oriented-forums about linux, is really something that I don't like to say the truth, especially when I see them on Hyperion's forums. It gives me the impression that Hyperion is looking elsewhere beyond AmigaOS.


Gazelle wrote:
@xeno74

I think it's an overreaction of Spectre660. Amigans.net is (and was) always primarily about AmigaOS 4 and nothing else. So, if a user at Amigans.net moans about "Linux News" on the "AmigaOS support forum" it shouldn't be a surprise at all.

That's what the "Amiga PPC Linux" forum at amigaworld is for.
[/quote]

Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-Jan-2014 at 03:02 PM.
Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-Jan-2014 at 03:02 PM.

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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 15:09:48
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@Gazelle

If everyone quit writing their program when one person had a gripe, nothing would ever get done at all....

What gets me is he wasn't even complaining about Linux - just the fact that the forum had no way of filtering the Linux posts out. Seems very strange to cut all support and development of a project just because of that.

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Gazelle 
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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 15:28:56
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@Spirantho

I think your reply is meant for Spectre660 not me.

@Spectre660
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I just removed what people were not happy with


You removed what some people (who don't need it anyway) were not happy with. And now people who may need it can't get it anymore.

It's your work and you can do whatever you want with it, I just think it was an overreaction.

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Spectre660 
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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 15:38:02
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@Spirantho

(1) I removed my post's due to the sentiments expressed in the Amigans.net thread .
(2) Xeno74 has all my released work hosted. I have not asked him to remove it.
(3) All I said was thanks to Xeno74 for his support and that I was moving on.
(4) My Sam460ex was destroyed so I cant do much more on the Sam460ex front.
(5) There was not a lot of interest in my Sam440ep work over the last 7 months.

I have brought Linux support on both machines up to Kernel 3.13 as well as Lubuntu 14.04LTS support. So support is like 5 years ahead starting from April 2014 .

My only remaining interest in Powerpc machines as of yesterday is to see how well Gallium3D runs on my Sam440ep-flex if it is still in use by the time Gallium3D is released.

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If everyone quit writing their program when one person had a gripe, nothing would ever get done at all....

What gets me is he wasn't even complaining about Linux - just the fact that the forum had no way of filtering the Linux posts out. Seems very strange to cut all support and development of a project just because of that.

Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-Jan-2014 at 03:57 PM.
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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 16:16:58
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@Spectre660

This attack pattern is quite familiar.
Engage you to your face with a smile in y our own domain and then launch an attack behind your back elsewhere always claiming that is is not an attack.


http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=2085

then

http://www.amigans.net/modules/xforum/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6332&forum=10

Last edited by Spectre660 on 25-Jan-2014 at 04:17 PM.

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Re: Linux on Sam440ep and Sam440ep-Flex
Posted on 25-Jan-2014 16:24:28
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@Spectre660

What happened to your 460ex?

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Spectre660 
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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 16:38:58
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Power supply failure fried it and my graphics card.
Everyone is losing computer equipment after a second period of island wide power failures.
The first series probably weakened the components and the second series finished them off.
Talking about 3 or 4 power cuts a day for 1 to 2 weeks .Sorry it was my Sam460ex and not a X86 machines that blew, But for some reason prefer the Sam460ex to have been the victim rather than my Sam440ep-flex .

@kyle

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What happened to your 460ex?

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Spirantho 
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Posted on 25-Jan-2014 16:43:51
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@Spectre660

I can fully understand your not working on it any more, given your 460 is not working. But why delete all the threads and screenshots and links? That's what I don't understand. I mean - ok, so someone doesn't like having Linux threads in an Amiga forum - does that mean that everyone else who needs that information should suffer?

Remember for each person unhappy and saying so, there will be many more happy people who don't say a word.

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@Spectre660

Your work on linux has opened a new world of possibilities for sam460. I was expecting 2d hardware acceleration for radeonhd on linux.

I do not want to pressure anybody but i stili think Acube should support you in someway.

If that is the final decision,i just want to thank you.

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