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Rob 
Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 21:17:14
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@Boot_WB

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Testing as in proof of concept testing? internal testing? beta testing?


Not sure, maybe some clarification is needed or just check the video again later when it's uploaded.

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Anything definitive on RadeonHD Warp3D?


I think Trevor said something about health problems of the Friedens holding up development. Not sure if he said they were just concentrating on Gallium now. To be honest I never understood the need for Warp3D for RadeonHD anyway because it would ultimately eat into development time for Gallium.

Steve Solie should be on in about 15 minutes now so maybe some more details about a few things then.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 21:21:53
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There will be no Laptop.. Cancelled.


You sneakily editied that in after I read your post.

Good to know though, and not surprising in the least.

@Trevor

Thanks for finally putting that one to bed once and for all.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 21:32:45
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Good to hear about libre office. So that's word and excel stuff sorted now EA do the right thing and make us a new version of Dpaint easiest art package to use ever.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 22:52:09
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News from SSolie:
Netbook officially canceled... can add source to wiki.
When Gallium3D done, OS4.2 will be released... when it is done.
X kernel - experimental multicore OS4. Nobody asked about compatibility with current applications.
Edit: There will be Update7, bootable CD for all platforms - Cyrus included.
FUSE ported to OS4, NTFS (NTFS-3G) is working reliably.

Stream gone.

Last edited by pavlor on 19-Oct-2013 at 10:55 PM.

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Re: amiwest news
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FUSE ported to OS4, NTFS (NTFS-3G) is working reliably.

Stream gone


Yeah, I wonder what Steven said after the "NTFS " announcement...

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Re: amiwest news
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@mr2

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Yeah, I wonder what Steven said after the "NTFS " announcement...


Probably only questions from public.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:07:43
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@pavlor

so, no Warp3D for pci-xpress radeon...

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Re: amiwest news
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@Seiya

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so, no Warp3D for pci-xpress radeon...


If it was talked about it, it was in first part of Trevor´s presentations, which I didn´t see.

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Boot_WB 
Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:14:44
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@pavlor

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News from SSolie:
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FUSE ported to OS4, NTFS (NTFS-3G) is working reliably.


Great news, NTFS support is damn useful, at least for media & archive storage etc. Same story as FAT wrt Amiga protection bits iirc though, so wouldn't want to use it for application/system files.

Is that an indendent implementation, or based on the MorphOS implementation by Leif (which he open-sourced iirc)?

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:20:15
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@Boot_WB

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Is that an indendent implementation, or based on the MorphOS implementation by Leif (which he open-sourced iirc)?


I don´t know. SSolie spoke about included tools (format, check etc.) for NTFS.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:23:01
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@Boot_WB

Yep, this was a port from MorphOS (AROS has a similar piece).

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:28:40
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Why is A-eon doing both P3041 and P5020/5040?

I got the impression from Trevor's presentation that the P3041 Cyrus will not be that much cheaper than the P5020, but it will be noticeably slower.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:29:57
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@Thematic

Hurrah! Sanity prevails. Development and bugfixing on one platform will be relevant to both.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:35:11
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@WolfToTheMoon

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I got the impression from Trevor's presentation that the P3041 Cyrus will not be that much cheaper than the P5020, but it will be noticeably slower.


4 e500mc cores 1.5 GHz should be at least as fast as 2 e5500 cores 2.0 GHz.

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:39:36
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@pavlor

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pavlor wrote:
@WolfToTheMoon

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I got the impression from Trevor's presentation that the P3041 Cyrus will not be that much cheaper than the P5020, but it will be noticeably slower.


4 e500mc cores 1.5 GHz should be at least as fast as 2 e5500 cores 2.0 GHz.


Freescales data page also describes the P3041 as a significant cost- and power-saving compared to the P5xxx family. And pin-compatble.

Credit to Andreas Wolf for predicting this quite some time ago.

@Andreas Wolf

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:45:46
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only if SMP is supported...

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:54:23
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only if SMP is supported...


Even then it depends on application.

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Re: amiwest news
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@pavlor

and how it is implemented... if it is implemented like PowerUP then only adapted applications (or games) would benefit

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 19-Oct-2013 23:58:54
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@OlafS25

that aros guy was talking about smp, and that hee needed hardwere
well and amiga 1200 has an 020 to begin with and iff you stuff and 040 on an acc way not both use the 040 and 020 i never could understand that in the old days...
anyway he said that iff anyone would lone him an xone1000 then he could do aros to ppc easy and that it could be implanted to os 4.0 way use time on that when hyperion is allso using recorse on that all ready now

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Re: amiwest news
Posted on 20-Oct-2013 0:09:30
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@retro

That's not symmetric - the 68040 basically runs circles around 68020, well, there would be no benefit after all.

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