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BrianK 
Re: Nibiru, what if ? - Part 4
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The Asteriod that changed life on the planet -- Did scientists find the meteoroid that crashed into earth and sprung forth the diversification of life?

And here I thought Stichin said it was Xenu who came to earth to do this.

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@Lou

Thought you might like this. How to use sand and water to reduce friction by 50%. http://www.iflscience.com/physics/mystery-how-egyptians-moved-pyramid-stones-solved

Now I'll give you they assumed it to be water in the picture in a purification ritual. And now claim they are wrong and think the water was used for lubrication. They could be wrong about it being water. Perhaps it was alien blood? ;)

EDIT - click on the Gizmodo link at the bottom. You'll see the 2.5 ton statue is being towed by 4 teams of 28 people per team. There might be a bit more? Not sure if the guys at front and back were working. They looked like crew masters so I didn't count them.

Just for fun let's assume the sled was 1/2 to itself so the 3 tons towed by 112 people would each be towing about 60 pounds per person. If adding water cut the friction in half that'd be like towing 30 pounds. Of course, it's unlikely the mixture was perfect all the time and there were likely uphills they had to tow. Let's say a conservative average of 50 pounds per person.

We know the Egyptian worked in shifts and lived where they worked. I could tow 50 pounds around each day. I used to carry more than 60 pounds around all day. (Thank you exercise that I don't do that any more.)

Simple human intelligence and muscle at work can resolve this problem without the need of invoking unknown aliens using unknown means.

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@BrianK

Aha! But a scientific postulate requires proof to be accepted, while religion can be accepted just on face value. So there.

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@Lou,

I thought it was in here somewhere that you said HIV was cured? Maybe I recall another thread on another site. If so apologies.

But, if you're interested HIV was thought cured in a newborn. 2 years later when tested it appears that HIV is not cured

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Black holes may be White holes. The postulate mathematically works.

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@Nimrod

Quote:

Nimrod wrote:
@Lou

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You have proven that you like to type a lot. That's about it.

As well as proving that you trawl the web for any C.R.A.P. that you can post as an alternate for what can be supported by evidence.
It has also been proved that you dishonestly change your inane assertions once they have been proved to be false.
It has also been proved that you accept any baseless assertion as fact just because it is supposed to be "new ideas" even though it can be shown to be not only C.R.A.P. but Stale C.R.A.P..

You've proven to live up to your name.
You've proven to repeat rhetoric and out of date "theories" in the face of incorrectness.
Why do you even bother posting? Oh yeah to troll of course. Everything you learned 40+ years ago about science is wrong today.

GR was wrong the day they made up dark energy as a 'placeholder'.
You are wrong. You do nothing but repeat yourself exactly like someone who's gone insane. Thanks for providing THAT evidence.

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Oh look, assumptions made by relativity epically fail again...

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/07/mysterious-orbits-of-dwarf-galaxies-found-all-over-the-nearby-universe/

Color me shocked...[or not].

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Just because it's quantum doesn't mean it's magic

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@Lou

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Oh look, assumptions made by relativity epically fail again...

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/07/mysterious-orbits-of-dwarf-galaxies-found-all-over-the-nearby-universe/

Color me shocked...[or not].

Exciting evidence that perhaps there's a way out of the current cosmological view into something better.

Though I wanted to be clear you understand the point of order in science is not that a new theory wins by default. Instead each new theory must demonstrate its ability by its own merit. Again I'm willing to accept just bring the evidence. I have that beer chilling for when you come to pick me up in your retrofitted anti-gravity Pontiac Fiero that runs for free.

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@Lou

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GR was wrong the day they made up dark energy as a 'placeholder'.

it may well be that GR is incorrect, or it may just be that we were not aware of all of the different aspects of matter and energy.

But what have you got that is better than GR
Quantum only works at subatomic levels, which is even more "localised" than you claim GR to be effective at.
Harameins "Schwartzchild proton" was a dud.
The "anti-gravity" of Podkletnov never got off the ground
Your Radiation pressure has been proved and measured as being insufficiently powerful to achieve the claims that you make for it.
Luminiferous Ether has simply never put in an appearance either at the levels predicted or any other levels.

What you still fail to understand is that scientists did not simply accept Einsteins GR simply because he claimed that Newton was not sufficiently accurate. GR got accepted over Luminiferous Ether because while they both made predictions GR very closely matched the predictions while the Michelson-Morley experiment found that the predicted fringing didn't exist. That was true the day they carried out the experiment,m it was true the next day, and the next year. It will still be true in forty years time.

Every bit of C.R.A.P. you have dredged up has been worse than wrong, but you still do nothing but repeat yourself. (I think you know the rest of the statement)

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@Lou,

Science!



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1 Billion dollar Satellite begins 3D mapping it's assigned 1% of our galaxy creating about 50GB/day of data.

http://www.cnet.com/news/gaia-satellite-begins-3d-mapping-the-galaxy/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_mission


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@Lou

Dark Matter is now fairly generally accepted
http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/AstroKatie

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@BrianK

It is or its?

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@Lou

New Physics - http://www.wired.com/2014/08/multiverse/

A good short article on how science knows that we're at the end of our predictions and a new path is needed. I know you say 'EM is God' but you're model of god and others models of god need to stand up to testing and verification so we know which god is real, or not.

...Also, it's been a while but you put forward the 'Giant Skeleton's exist C.R.A.P. I was talking with friend recently who said the same thing. He emailed me some 20xx pictures from Saudi to show me. He didn't know about the Square-Cube Law. It's a good one to think about and easy way to show his Giants were really photoshopped and couldn't physically exist in the manner the bones in his pictures would have us believing. ...

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Comparing forces makes no sense

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@Nimrod

Quote:

Nimrod wrote:
@Lou

Quote:
GR was wrong the day they made up dark energy as a 'placeholder'.

it may well be that GR is incorrect, or it may just be that we were not aware of all of the different aspects of matter and energy.

But what have you got that is better than GR
Quantum only works at subatomic levels, which is even more "localised" than you claim GR to be effective at.
Harameins "Schwartzchild proton" was a dud.
The "anti-gravity" of Podkletnov never got off the ground
Your Radiation pressure has been proved and measured as being insufficiently powerful to achieve the claims that you make for it.
Luminiferous Ether has simply never put in an appearance either at the levels predicted or any other levels.

What you still fail to understand is that scientists did not simply accept Einsteins GR simply because he claimed that Newton was not sufficiently accurate. GR got accepted over Luminiferous Ether because while they both made predictions GR very closely matched the predictions while the Michelson-Morley experiment found that the predicted fringing didn't exist. That was true the day they carried out the experiment,m it was true the next day, and the next year. It will still be true in forty years time.

Every bit of C.R.A.P. you have dredged up has been worse than wrong, but you still do nothing but repeat yourself. (I think you know the rest of the statement)

RP has not been disproven. You have proven nothing, but go in repeating yourself if that's what makes you happy in life.

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@BrianK

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Dark Matter is now fairly generally accepted
http://www.slideshare.net/mobile/AstroKatie


I 100% agree with dark matter as 'undiscovered' matter, but the crazier stuff is far from accepted. They keep finding more inter-galactic hydrogen, so the actual matter percentage has climbed and the dark matter percentage diminished.

Remember when I said this solar system is in a bubble?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/tech/innovation/space-local-bubble/index.html

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@BrianK

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BrianK wrote:
Comparing forces makes no sense

Hey remember when you and some nimrod were convinced SUSY didn't exist since and used that to disprove some of the many scientists/engineers that use SUSY in their RP theories...

...well...
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/176969-searching-for-supersymmetry-work-begins-on-large-hadron-colliders-60-mile-long-successor

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@Lou

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RP has not been disproven. You have proven nothing, but go in repeating yourself if that's what makes you happy in life.

Three points.
1) Null-hypothesis. Until such time as you can provide sufficient levels of evidence to corroborate your Consistently Ridiculous Asinine Presuppositions, the default is that they are not true. The onus is on its proponents to prove it, not vice versa.
2) The levels of Radiation Pressure have actually been measured and have been shown to be insufficient to achieve what you claim that is achieved by RP. We do not deny the existence of RP but we know that you cannot lift the mass of a SaturnV rocket into Earth orbit by shining an l.e.d. torch from the tailpipe.
3) The two stars in J0651 are moving towards each other, not receding as they would if RP were anywhere near as powerful as you presuppose. Admittedly they will not merge for about another two million years, but they will merge instead of moving apart. They will do that because the gravitational attraction of their combined masses will draw them together despite them being two brightly shining spheres in a dark "box".

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