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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-Dec-2017 2:18:28
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3d accelerated software has an advantage as soon as the data (textures) have been sent over the slow bus to video ram to be manipulated there. as a framebuffer voodoo suffers as much as any other card on mediator. with 7mb/s you can drive a low res 320x240 sdl game at a reasonable framerate but you will struggle with 640x480 or 800x600 which is whats usually least expected. same when using the fancy hollywood effects and wipes. all that will slideshow with mediator but work well with vampire. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-Dec-2017 6:25:48
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If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s. Probably it is a supposition the vampire v4 will have a faster rate or the bus will be a big bottle neck in This case. _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-Dec-2017 8:01:46
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 18-Dec-2017 10:15:28
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If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s. |
this depends on a device. the rate you bring up is possible with cv64 afair, achieved by pulling some tricks on the bus. even fastlane doesnt perform that well and i repeatedly measured myself voodoo3 to be two times slower. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 19-Dec-2017 9:23:21
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 19-Dec-2017 12:23:13
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If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s. |
this depends on a device. the rate you bring up is possible with cv64 afair, achieved by pulling some tricks on the bus. even fastlane doesnt perform that well and i repeatedly measured myself voodoo3 to be two times slower. |
Right, Picasso IV did some 12 MB/s max and other cards mostly still slower. CV64 was probably the fastest on ZorroIII. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 7-Jan-2018 13:23:01
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 17-Jan-2018 18:30:07
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 28-Jan-2018 13:34:59
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 28-Jan-2018 18:37:59
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I played this on Amiga PPC, and this looks great on the Vampire :) |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 6-Feb-2018 21:01:18
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 7-Feb-2018 12:19:23
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With this version 1.10, I have removed about 49 emulated Fpu instructions. I have another version with included fsin & fcos (no more 68060.library calls too) never released, because not really faster on true 060...
(The internal copyroutine is very bad for me in this game (both 020 & 060 versions), maybe we can get an interesting speedup with some rework...)
Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 15-Feb-2018 at 04:12 PM. Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 07-Feb-2018 at 12:33 PM. Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 07-Feb-2018 at 12:25 PM. Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 07-Feb-2018 at 12:24 PM. Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 07-Feb-2018 at 12:20 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 7-Feb-2018 18:31:05
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 8-Feb-2018 5:21:09
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Ive forwarded your comment in this thread to Tuko which recorded the Vampire video, and hes active here too; |
If you can get the original source, I'll continue...Last edited by CosmosUnivers on 15-Feb-2018 at 04:13 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 8-Feb-2018 11:50:18
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wawa wrote: @Rob
3d accelerated software has an advantage as soon as the data (textures) have been sent over the slow bus to video ram to be manipulated there. as a framebuffer voodoo suffers as much as any other card on mediator. with 7mb/s you can drive a low res 320x240 sdl game at a reasonable framerate but you will struggle with 640x480 or 800x600 which is whats usually least expected. same when using the fancy hollywood effects and wipes. all that will slideshow with mediator but work well with vampire. |
Have you tested Hollywood under Vampire or the above statement was based as an assumption? Because I get completely different results. Just two weeks ago, at the recent amicamp party in Athens, I tested my wip craktro (380x284 res. double buffering with hardware acceleration) and it was crawling barely at 7 fps, on tabor (with all latest drivers) it reached just 15, whereas on Sam460/OS4.1FE along with my PMAC G4 MorphOS it capped the max fps limit I 've set (60)._________________
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 8-Feb-2018 13:13:32
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Have you tested Hollywood under Vampire or the above statement was based as an assumption? |
i dont have vampire, but there are videos on the net showing hollywood wipes demo on an apollo equipped systems. on an amiga even with mediator and voodoo, no matter 68k or ppc, no matter os4 i remember it well to be a slideshow. on vampire it just seems to work.Last edited by wawa on 08-Feb-2018 at 01:14 PM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 8-Feb-2018 15:15:39
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Amiga QuakeWos on workbench 3.9 Amiga 4000 604e a 366 mhz resolution 320x240 on Aga 27 fps _________________ I love Amiga and new hope by AmigaNG A 500 + ; CDTV; CD32; PowerMac G5 Quad 8GB,SSD,SSHD,7800gtx,Radeon R5 230 2GB; MacBook Pro Retina I7 2.3ghz; #nomorea-eoninmyhome |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 9-Feb-2018 10:10:15
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here a video for compare QuakeGl on Os4 classic Ak4 Cyb 604e 366mhz with vodoo 3 640x480 performances.
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I have the feeling if 3D accelerated Vampire with a Voodoo3 will be really near to my onld A4k . Im really waiting the Vampire V4 Last edited by tlosm on 09-Feb-2018 at 10:12 AM.
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 10-Feb-2018 10:28:51
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| Arts latest update to his Patreon page;
https://www.patreon.com/ArtiGamesAmiSoft/posts
NetSurf has got now Ammx2 accelerated jpeg decoding.
Since it uses Ammx2 ,it is going to be released with Gold2.7 core.
(40% faster jpeg loading).
GnuBoy Ammx optimised version of GameBoy Color emulator.
(Works fully and faster than aminet version).
PocketSNES fully working Super Nintendo Entaritainment System emulator.
(Needs optimizations but simple games like Super Mario World are playable).
GnGeo NeoGeo SNK emulator.
(Fully working , needs optimisations ).
And a secret game. |
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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo Posted on 11-Feb-2018 21:14:00
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| Vampire 1200 edition, where are you? Screenshots, newer videos, news, ANYTHING. Where are you???
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