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wawa 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 18-Dec-2017 2:18:28
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@Rob

3d accelerated software has an advantage as soon as the data (textures) have been sent over the slow bus to video ram to be manipulated there. as a framebuffer voodoo suffers as much as any other card on mediator. with 7mb/s you can drive a low res 320x240 sdl game at a reasonable framerate but you will struggle with 640x480 or 800x600 which is whats usually least expected. same when using the fancy hollywood effects and wipes. all that will slideshow with mediator but work well with vampire.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 18-Dec-2017 6:25:48
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@wawa

If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s. Probably it is a supposition the vampire v4 will have a faster rate or the bus will be a big bottle neck in This case.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 18-Dec-2017 8:01:46
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@tlosm

The V4 is powered by 512MB of DDR3. Specs from August say up to 1GB/s.

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=7626

Should give a nice boost to any software-based 3D.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 18-Dec-2017 10:15:28
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@tlosm

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If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s.


this depends on a device. the rate you bring up is possible with cv64 afair, achieved by pulling some tricks on the bus. even fastlane doesnt perform that well and i repeatedly measured myself voodoo3 to be two times slower.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 19-Dec-2017 9:23:21
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Some uploads to Vimeo.

Unique “Singularities” Amiga AGA Demo (Vampire 600 V2)

GOLD3 internal beta core for Vampire FPGA Accelerator. Realtime capture from Amiga 600 (HDMI, both audio and video 720x576@50) with StarTech PEXHDCAP.

https://vimeo.com/247808964

http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=69702




Unique “Subside” Amiga AGA Demo (Vampire 600 V2)

GOLD3 internal beta core for Vampire FPGA Accelerator. This demo runs in 640x160 HAM8 screen (15bit). Realtime capture from Amiga 600 (HDMI 720x576@50) with StarTech PEXHDCAP.

https://vimeo.com/247800614

http://ada.untergrund.net/?p=demo&i=853
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=67140

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zipper 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 19-Dec-2017 12:23:13
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@wawa

Quote:

wawa wrote:
@tlosm

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If i good remember the transfer rate in z3 in a4k Was about 16mb/s.


this depends on a device. the rate you bring up is possible with cv64 afair, achieved by pulling some tricks on the bus. even fastlane doesnt perform that well and i repeatedly measured myself voodoo3 to be two times slower.

Right, Picasso IV did some 12 MB/s max and other cards mostly still slower. CV64 was probably the fastest on ZorroIII.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 7-Jan-2018 13:23:01
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Atari ST emulation on a V600 Gold Core 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJHSDnRH3AU

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 17-Jan-2018 18:30:07
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Some more demos tested on Gold 2.7

Elude “We Come In Peace” Amiga AGA/RTG Demo (Vampire 600 V2)

https://vimeo.com/251163888

Elude “Lightshaft” Amiga RTG Demo (Vampire 600 V2)

https://vimeo.com/251034564

EPH&KVG&RNO&CF “Software Make the Dance Foam Oil” Amiga AGA/RTG Demo (Vampire 600 V2)

https://vimeo.com/251155969

AMMX enabled datatypes in the works;

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=12181

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 28-Jan-2018 13:34:59
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Descent Freespace on Vampire 2 Amiga 600 RTG X12 BETA Core

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZn_qD9t0Is

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 28-Jan-2018 18:37:59
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@Overflow

I played this on Amiga PPC, and this looks great on the Vampire :)

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 6-Feb-2018 21:01:18
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GOLD2.7 WIP - FPU showcase with Cosmos Quake 1.10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdl5Ek_Rhk

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 7-Feb-2018 12:19:23
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with Cosmos Quake 1.10


With this version 1.10, I have removed about 49 emulated Fpu instructions. I have another version with included fsin & fcos (no more 68060.library calls too) never released, because not really faster on true 060...

(The internal copyroutine is very bad for me in this game (both 020 & 060 versions), maybe we can get an interesting speedup with some rework...)

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 7-Feb-2018 18:31:05
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@CosmosUnivers

Ive forwarded your comment in this thread to Tuko which recorded the Vampire video, and hes active here too;

http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=3¬e=10191&x=6

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 8-Feb-2018 5:21:09
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Ive forwarded your comment in this thread to Tuko which recorded the Vampire video, and hes active here too;


If you can get the original source, I'll continue...

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 8-Feb-2018 11:50:18
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@wawa

Quote:

wawa wrote:
@Rob

3d accelerated software has an advantage as soon as the data (textures) have been sent over the slow bus to video ram to be manipulated there. as a framebuffer voodoo suffers as much as any other card on mediator. with 7mb/s you can drive a low res 320x240 sdl game at a reasonable framerate but you will struggle with 640x480 or 800x600 which is whats usually least expected. same when using the fancy hollywood effects and wipes. all that will slideshow with mediator but work well with vampire.


Have you tested Hollywood under Vampire or the above statement was based as an assumption? Because I get completely different results. Just two weeks ago, at the recent amicamp party in Athens, I tested my wip craktro (380x284 res. double buffering with hardware acceleration) and it was crawling barely at 7 fps, on tabor (with all latest drivers) it reached just 15, whereas on Sam460/OS4.1FE along with my PMAC G4 MorphOS it capped the max fps limit I 've set (60).

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 8-Feb-2018 13:13:32
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@Cool_amigaN

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Have you tested Hollywood under Vampire or the above statement was based as an assumption?


i dont have vampire, but there are videos on the net showing hollywood wipes demo on an apollo equipped systems. on an amiga even with mediator and voodoo, no matter 68k or ppc, no matter os4 i remember it well to be a slideshow. on vampire it just seems to work.

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tlosm 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 8-Feb-2018 15:15:39
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@Overflow

Amiga QuakeWos on workbench 3.9 Amiga 4000 604e a 366 mhz resolution 320x240 on Aga 27 fps

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tlosm 
Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 9-Feb-2018 10:10:15
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@Overflow

here a video for compare QuakeGl on Os4 classic Ak4 Cyb 604e 366mhz with vodoo 3 640x480 performances.

Video

I have the feeling if 3D accelerated Vampire with a Voodoo3 will be really near to my onld A4k . Im really waiting the Vampire V4

Last edited by tlosm on 09-Feb-2018 at 10:12 AM.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 10-Feb-2018 10:28:51
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Arts latest update to his Patreon page;

https://www.patreon.com/ArtiGamesAmiSoft/posts

NetSurf has got now Ammx2 accelerated jpeg decoding.

Since it uses Ammx2 ,it is going to be released with Gold2.7 core.

(40% faster jpeg loading).

GnuBoy Ammx optimised version of GameBoy Color emulator.

(Works fully and faster than aminet version).

PocketSNES fully working Super Nintendo Entaritainment System emulator.

(Needs optimizations but simple games like Super Mario World are playable).

GnGeo NeoGeo SNK emulator.

(Fully working , needs optimisations ).


And a secret game.

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Re: News about Vampire and Apollo
Posted on 11-Feb-2018 21:14:00
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Vampire 1200 edition, where are you? Screenshots, newer videos, news, ANYTHING. Where are you???

Ed


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